Re: Exar Kun Supreme Respect Thread (NEW UPDATE 8/28/2022)

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Updated the spirit section.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

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[MasterCilghalLevel Three]

Excellent work.

[IGLevel Four]

Nice job.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Thank you, both.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

The first post has been overhauled completely.

[Geistalt]

I'd upvote your Malak quote addendum if I hadn't already spent my two upvotes today.

We can all agree that the only reason Malak has to be comparable to, let alone stronger than, Kun is the Star Forge and its Jedi-draining amp.


I'm reevaluating my position on 3,996 BBY Vitiate in relation to Kun. Kun's meant to be more powerful, at least compared to anyone prior that already existed in the lore at the time TotJ was published. Possibly stronger than Vitiate, if you take supremacy quotes as being "hard caps" the way I do.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Main post further updated with two new quotes.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Added immense quotes, uncovered through my own personal research and Jake's. Including galaxy tier quotes, etc. Please re-read if you've read this before. Thank you.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Massively updated the content, added a trove of accolades and feats to both living and spirit Exar Kun posts.

[S_W_LeGenD]

Comprehensive and well done. Credit where due.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

The biggest and most important update thus far to this respect thread has now been made. Thanks to Jaggarath for help with the fact files. Expect minor updates here and there, henceforth.

[Latham2000Level Three]

Didn't read through it but well done.

[lorenzo.r.2ndLevel Three]

The biggest and most important update thus far to this respect thread has now been made. Thanks to Jaggarath for help with the fact files. Expect minor updates here and there, henceforth.

what exatcly is new?

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Many things removed such as Tuk'ata comparison and after discussions with Ant awhile ago, I removed the TOTJ Masters scaling from KOTOR Masters. What has been added is Exar Kun's massive drain feat, his ability to exist as a spirit without an anchor as well as his newly revitalised claim to the title of most powerful Sith Lord.

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

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[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Final additions to the Malak issue have been updated in the third post, including Cory Herndon's clarification.

[Decaf_Beverages]

@KingofBlades Kun's lightsaber is revealed to be a dark side nexus in the KotOR comics.

I think it was probably him that made it a nexus to begin with, it wasn't an artifact, it was something he created of his own ability

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

A new update. (Credit to Decaf)

Exar Kun is known to have made 'abominations' by using his own physical template to imbue Massassi with a fraction of his power:

Although the Massassi pledged their loyalty to Exar Kun after he defeated the Sith wyrm, the Dark Jedi was still not satisfied. Filled with bitterness and spite, he swore to himself that he would make an example out of the warriors who had put him through his ordeal in the Temple of Fire. Furthermore, he realized that Naga Sadow had not gone far enough when he altered the Massassi. While they made excellent forest warriors, they were not prepared for the highpowered ordnance they would have to face when fighting the forces of the Republic. Exar Kun rejoiced when he discovered the giant alchemical machine that had belonged to Naga Sadow. At last, he had the means to shape his Massassi servants as he needed them, and he knew just the Massassi on whom he could experiment: Zythmnr, the priest who had ordered Kun to be sacrificed.

The Sith disciple first altered Zythmnr physically, fusing the old priest's skin with metallic bioarmor and enhancing the Massassi's skeletal structure and musculature accordingly. Vicious claws became razored gauntlets, thick hide became hardened plating, and Zythmnr's head was encased in a shelled helmet. The process was excruciating for the Massassi. He not only survived, but also continued to worship Kun, willfully insisting the experiments continue.

Exar Kun was more than happy to comply. He took his next step: infusing his new warrior with the dark side using some of his own physical makeup as a template. When Zythmnr readily took to the treatment-and even showed potential with Force skills-Kun chose several more "volunteers" to continue his work. Before long, he had several dozen living weapons that exuded the raw power and energy of the dark side. Upon feeling their power firsthand, the Jedi called them "abominations." Kun would take many of these bestial servants on his quests for Sith knowledge. In a few cases, he even left a handful of his favorite warriors behind to terrorize any that might oppose him. While the Jedi believed that all of the Massassi abominations died with their people, there may yet be descendants of this hideous species stranded on some remote, forgotten world.

One of these was Kalgrath the night beast who could generate an instinctive Force Shield so strong that it was 'invulnerable' to heavy weapon cannon fire:

[Vaelias]

Very Good  happy to c some love for my favorite character

[MasterCilghalLevel Three]

@Vaelias welcome to the forum!

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Added the following accolade:

For the first time since the Sith War, there would be a generation of Jedi Knights who grew up surrounded by a Force clouded by the dark side. They were learning to feel with hearts made too old, too hard, too soon.

(Credit to Decaf)

[AncientPowerSuspect Hero | Level Four]

Added these from a West End Games supplement:

As of the Battle of Coruscant, Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kun are about as strong as Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine:


Translation: They're about the same strength as Vader and Palpatine but less amicable. Drop the charismatics.

Exar Kun is also stated to be the supreme master of the Sith Order by now:


Translation: He is an ambitious Jedi, initiated into the doctrine of the Sith, of which he becomes the supreme master. His ultimate ambition is to restore the Sith empire.

(Credit to Decaf)

[DarthAnt66Moderator]

Lls jouent dans la meme cour que Vador et Palpatine et sont plutot moins aimables qu’eux.

Lls jouent dans = They play in 
La meme cour = the same court
Que Vador et Palpatine = as Vader and Palpatine
et sont plutot moins aimables qu’eu = and are rather less friendly than them. 

I recommend updating your translation. The translation "they play in the same court" is, apparently, a common French phrase to roughly mean to "to be of the same size; to be equal talent, in fortune, in glory, etc." There's not really a basis to say it's referencing uniquely referencing power when there's obviously many other parallels you can draw between them all. And it's rather unlikely it's about power unless it's insinuating Kun, Droma, Palpatine, and Vader are all of comparable strength (???). Notice it never says "respectively" and, if you were to add that in, that would put Kun with Vader and Droma with Palpatine as it writes Kun and Droma but then Vader and Palpatine.

Cool find, though.

[lorenzo.r.2ndLevel Three]

Lls jouent dans la meme cour que Vador et Palpatine et sont plutot moins aimables qu’eux.

Lls jouent dans = They play in 
La meme cour = the same court
Que Vador et Palpatine = as Vader and Palpatine
et sont plutot moins aimables qu’eu = and are rather less friendly than them. 

I recommend updating your translation. The translation "they play in the same court" is, apparently, a common French phrase to roughly mean to "to be of the same size; to be equal talent, in fortune, in glory, etc." There's not really a basis to say it's referencing "strength" when there's obviously many other parallels you can draw between them all. And it's rather unlikely it's referencing "strength" unless it's insinuating Kun, Droma, Palpatine, and Vader are all of comparable strength (???). Notice it never says "respectively" and, if you were to add that in, that would put Kun with Vader and Droma with Palpatine as it writes Kun and Droma but then Vader and Palpatine.

Cool find, though.

look, idk if any of what u said is true or not, but regardless, wouldnt the fact that the quote said that they were less friendly than sheev and vader already be enough of a joke?

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