- Ghost of Grievous
Ultimate General Grievous Respect Thread (legends) 2022
December 14th 2021, 2:58 pm
THE GRIEVOUS RESPECT THREAD TO END ALL RESPECT THREADS
"I am not a droid! I am General Grievous"
General Grievous was born under the name Qymaen jai Sheelal was a Kaleesh warrior whos people were at a constant war with the insectoid species known as the Huks. After an ship crash engineered by Count Dooku, the Kaleesh warlord was rebuilt by Banking clan member Sam Hill in part with Geonosian Technicians. Reborn as the dreaded Cyborg and granted an army of droids, the reborn general would go on to be an active member in the Clone Wars and would be the author of the Separatist movements war effort.
Thought up by George Lucas and designed by artist Warren J. Fu. The General was to play a supporting antagonist role for the soon to be named Emperor Palpatine in the final Prequel film "Revenge of the Sith" back in 2005. With many citing his first appearance in the Clone wars animated series in 2003.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
-CYBERNETICS-
DURABILITY
SPEED
STRENGTH
STRATEGIST
SHAAK TI
ONE MAN ARMY
EXAMPLE
SABOTAGE
DUELING
GREATEST H2H
GENERAL ACCOLADES
NOTABLE BATTLES
HYPORI
VS MACE WINDU
VS KIT FISTO
VS OBI-WAN
VS EETH KOTH
VS DURGE/VENTRESS
QYMAEN JAI SHEELAL
STATS
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CYBERNETICS
a description of the generals cybernetic body
the general is mostly made up of duranium, durasteel and armorplast. Very strong lightweight alloys capable of sustaining heavy damage and used in sturdy construction jobs
-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
Noted as being nearly indestructible or impervious
-star wars: visionaries 2005
-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
-star wars general grievous comics 2005
the armor making up his body can even withstand volleys from a starfighter laser cannon
-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
a brief description of starfighter laser cannons
-the new essential guide to vehicles and weapons 2003
Grievous' brain has been taxed with cybernetic alterations as well. granting him greater reaction and faster learning
-revenge of the sith visual dictionary 2005
-star wars general grievous comics 2005
-labyrinth of evil 2005
Sam hill believes that grievous' new cybernetic abilities will put him beyond the jedi
-star wars visionaries 2005
Grievous' cybernetics make him one of the most feared beings in the galaxy
who are the jedi
his cybornetic limbs grant him "superhuman strength and agility"
clone wars widevision 2009
DURABILITY
Grievous survives being in the center of a massive explosion that ruins an entire city
- star wars general grievous comics 2005
Grievous Shrugs off getting punched several feet by Durge and slashed by ventress
star wars clone wars adventures volume 3 "rogues gallery" 2005
Greivous' Guards staffs cannot harm him
-revenge of the sith novel 2005
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-revenge of the sith 2005
the same staffs cracked and broke part of Jangos armor
-boba fett: a new threat 2004
Grievous blasts off being buried in rubble
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Grievous tanks a rocket launcher point blank to the face
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Survives and seems unharmed by being inside a ship exploding
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-star wars the clone wars: season 1 episode 4 "destroy malevolence" 2008
Probably the lowest showing for Grievous' Durability here. Mace Windu force slamming a Droid speeder on him with massive force to make a large explosion of dust
-star wars obsession 2005
shrugs off an exploding tank
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-star wars the clone wars season 5 episode 8 "bound for rescue" 2012
takes a blaster shot from a DC-17 to the face (gif slowed down to make it easier to see)
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-star wars the clone wars season 1 episode 10 "lair of grievous" 2008
in concept art for ROTS grievous shows to be able to hold saber blades in his hand and is completely immune to saber attacks
a concept that was also used in the non canon japanese manga where a he once again hold saber blades
SPEED
Grievous moves so fast he appears to teleport
Dodges point blank blaster fire from a mandalorian
-star wars son of dathomir 2014
Durge notes that Grievous is fast and seems to evade ventress' sight
star wars clone wars adventures volume 3 "rogues gallery" 2005
he can attack faster then thought
can attack thrice a second with each of his arms, before ramping up said speeds to overload Obi-wan "master of defense" Kenobi
note that this doesnt define as Grievous' limit of swings, but the amount needed to overload kenobi. its entirely possible he can go faster
he can spin his sabers so fast it looks like he's standing in a pulsing sphere of energy
grievous leaps super fast he appears to almost vanish
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Grievous moves so fast he can dodge force pushes, TI having to predict where he will go to get him
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-star wars clone wars 2003
runs as fast as a descending elevator
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Grievous' arms and sabers become a tornado of energy
Allows a group of Jedi and Clones to ready their weapons after his entrance. indicating he could likely kill them all
Grievous can swing his saber and arms so fast they create a "imitation quantum effect" vanishing from sight and moving faster then obi-wan
Grievous dodges a squad of ARC trooper blaster fire and gunship laser cannons + rockets (5:01)
STRENGTH
Grievous' speed and strength makes him tough to beat
Grievous throws durge very far and through several objects
star wars clone wars adventures volume 3 "rogues gallery" 2005
Grievous rips up a console to throw it at Obi-wan
Crushes jedi Sha'agi and kills him by landing on him
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-star wars clone wars 2003
stops and smashes a Droideka
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-star wars the clone wars season 1 episode 4 "destroy malevolence" 2008
Cuts through lightsaber resistant staffs
-star wars visionaries 2005
Does so again and kicks Obi-wan he seems disorientated
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-star wars the clone wars season 2 episode 10 "grievous intrigue" 2010
-star wars the complete encyclopedia 2008
-magna guard databank
Beats up kenobi and sends him flying before denting his ship, which is lined with impervium
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Throws Kenobi far again
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-revenge of the sith 2005
Flings a Clone and crushes his neck with his foot (2:17-2:32)
-star wars the clone wars season 5 episode 8 "bound for rescue" 2012
Smashes a Magnaguard and cracks transparisteel
-star wars visionaries 2005
Breaks Transparisteel with an electrostaff in ROTS
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-revenge of the sith 2005
landing on the ground causes a crater
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-star wars clone ware 2003
Crushes jedi Tarr Seirr's head and flings him and Aayla secura up into the ceiling
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-star wars clone wars 2003
The force of Grievous' throw was so mighty they got stuck up there. When the ARCs came looking they had to send one up into the rafters when looking for survivors (1:20)
-star wars clone wars 2003
in the unfinished S7 episodes Grievous tosses a grown varactyl several feet behind him with one arm
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Dents and bends ships hull with his feet in ROTS
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-revenge of the sith 2005
Kicks mundi so hard he flies back and becomes buried in giant machinery
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Grievous swings so hard that despite Shaak Ti stopping the saber the force of the swing sends her into rubble and knocked unconscious to the point she may die without medical attention
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-star wars clone wars 2003
Kicks back Kenobi several feet in ROTS
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-star wars revenge of the sith 2005
- Palpatine Palpatine
Re: Ultimate General Grievous Respect Thread (legends) 2022
December 14th 2021, 4:39 pm
Fantastic thread,
- Vaelias
Re: Ultimate General Grievous Respect Thread (legends) 2022
December 15th 2021, 2:04 am
Amazing thread man keep it up
- Ghost of Grievous
part 2 - Strategist
May 28th 2022, 3:05 pm
STRATEGIST
Grievous is repeatedly called a brilliant military strategist
-hasbro titanium statue 2006
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-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
-star wars databank
-star wars 30th anniversary action figure
-star wars episodes 1-3 trading cards 2005
-star wars databank
-2007 tin repack
-12 inch collactable figure
-battlefront 2 prima guide 2005
-grievous databank
-the clone wars miniature series 2008
-star wars galactic file
some may chalk grievous' "strategic brilliance" up to his endless waves of droids, and while that may have some truth to it grievous is far more capable than that, mixing and matching strategies accordingly to get the best results which other strategists would regard him as a tactical genius
-essential guide to warfare 2008
- star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
Grievous' tactical skills and effective campaign against the republic has made many in the republic view him as more deadlier then count dooku
-general grievous databank
in fact its noted that rarely did the general have to use his full intelligence when creating a strategy, But when he did the effects were noted to be devastating
-general grievous lord of war
General grievous has strategically spread the jedi and republic forces thin across the galaxy.
"The strategy is working perfectly my lord. the jedi and their forces are stretched thin across the galaxy, in a vein attempt to contain our new offensive"
-Star wars Clone wars 2003
SHAAK TI
Jedi Master Shaak ti comments on his strategy at Hypori was without flaw (00:26)
it should also be noted that shaak ti herself is quite the strategist. being called cunning and part of planning
for another noted master tactician to say Grievous' strategy is without flaw is very high praise indeed
ONE MAN ARMY
In fact you can also attribute the entire separatist movements victories and danger to General Grievous himself. having been noted as the reason behind turning the droid army into the powerful foe that it is
-invisible hand databank
-revenge of the sith unleashed figure 2006
-the clone wars campaign guide 2009
-general grievous 2009 action figure
before Grievous the separatist worked poorly and only after the appointment of the general were the droid armies able to do sustained battle or as mace windu puts it "changing the shape of the war" (00:55)
-essential guide to warfare 2012
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-the clone wars campaign guide 2009
Grievous has also been noted to embody all the needed qualities to ensure victory for the CIS, placing him above the likes of Sev'rance T'ann, Ventress and Durge
-The Clone wars campaign guide 2009
The Republic began recruiting from able bodied worlds to help assist the Clone troopers. Using propaganda to call Grievous' tactics wasteful and he's cowardly and overconfident when the truth is the Republic higher ups were very afraid of Grievous
-general grievous lord of war
EXAMPLE
a few examples of Grievous' strategic efficiency is the taking of the ugnaught planet, while they were a more factory designed world they were not without a military. However within days of landing the have claimed the planet with minimal damage to the factories themselves, which was the target all together
-star wars general grievous 2005
The bombing of the Coruscant generators is another noted example of Grievous' strategic mind at work. dispatching undercover droids to rig and blow up the generators for the planet. causing almost a planet wide black out and cause of mass panic
-star wars the clone wars season 3 episode 10 "heroes on both sides"
-heroes on both sides episode guide
and a personal favorite of mine was the assault of kamino. purposely sacrificing his heavy ships to let their debris fall to the planet under its pull. while this would rain large debris down on the city if any were to hit it would cause crazy amounts of damage, but even more so hidden on the wreckage were Triton drill assault crafts that ventress would repair and use to slip past the blockade and raid the city with. such crafts proved almost vital in assaulting the city since their drills can pierce through and deploy their armies within.
star wars.com triton craft - relationship: general grievous
Then lastly his strategy for the galactic war as a whole. precision lightning strikes and mass advancement to spread the republic forces very thin as they counter this new offensive, which of course is a bait so they can slip past to launch their "final operation" being the attack on Coruscant
-star wars complete encyclopedia 2008
this new offensive has spread their forces so thin that according to windu, any extra help is considered impossible
we get to see a glimpse of this new offensive in OCW with a montage of separatists victories on various worlds including the infamous "droid attack on the wookies"
SABOTAGE
Despite Grievous' Strategic mind he wasnt without flaws. while the incompetency of the droids under his command may be one, Im more referring to his sith masters. While Grievous' war effort is vital to the sith plans, they are not the only thing of importance, as such Grievous is often forced to make strategically flawed choices due to the siths greater plan
two such examples being when Grievous captured the chancellor. He notes that they should have left the system hours ago but were forced to remain in combat because Dooku (and Sidious) wish to draw in Anakin and Obi-wan
-revenge of the sith novelization 2005
and another being the capture of Darth Maul, once more the sith masters order Grievous otherwise
-Star Wars Son of Dathomir 2014
Despite his brilliance he ultimately wasnt meant to win in the end but he certainly was a force to be reckoned with and under different circumstances may have won the war
- Ghost of Grievous
part 3 - dueling
May 28th 2022, 3:05 pm
DUELING
GREATEST H2H FIGHTER
Grievous is a famed jedi killer, having killed numerous jedi in combat, earning him a deadly reputation. and acquiring many accolades as one of the greatest h2h killers of jedi in the galaxy
Star wars producer Rick McCallum calls him the greatest hand to hand killer the galaxy ever knows
having been trained by count Dooku he distinguishes himself by killing more jedi then any other being
a master of hand to hand combat
-what is a sith warrior 2013
has claim to be the greatest warrior in the galaxy
-general grievous electronic battle set
Hard pressed Count Dooku in their spars
Fights and beats his magna guards
The same guards are said to be trained in the seven lightsaber forms and a match for most
magna guards themselves are held above the destroyer droids (droidekas) who according to filoni per george is equal to a jedi itself
-revenge of the sith book 2005
-first footage from the clone wars 2007
Nick Gillard when talking about a deleted scene they filmed regarding Obi-wan fighting Magna guards likened it to fighting six Darth mauls (21:00)
Magna guards that obi-wan fights are on another level than maul.
-ROTS commentary
In a deleted scene. Grievous while using a staff faces off against kenobi in a massive fight. Gillard describes it "like the darth maul fight but on another level"
https://youtu.be/wtTjZtqvkic?t=361
Early in the clone wars Grievous was unleashed into the catacombs of Geonosis and killed entire clone companies and jedi with his hands
general grievous: unknown soldier/lord of war 2006
for reference a Clone Company consists of 144 troopers + 1 support personnel
Grievous instantly kills Adi Gallia a couple of months before ROTS
-star wars obsession 2005
Adi gallia back in TPM was capable of fighting maul and potentially winning via the game jedi power battles which is essentially TPM but with your choice of the protagonist
-star wars episode 1: jedi power battles 2000
has Captured Adi Gallia, implying he has bested her in combat
fact file 23
Adi Gallia said to come close to dying by Grievous, hinting she may not survive in later seasons
Kills a padawan and brutally maims an jedi
-star wars general grievous comic 2005
Grievous made short work of a Great and fearless jedi warrior
-star wars general grievous comic 2005
Grievous while sacking Coruscant kills 4 jedi at once
Then kills two more Jedi who were more powerful then the previous ones
grievous muses after the fact that had the jedi that protected the chancellor been made up of jedi of the calibre of windu and kit fisto it potentially may have been different. implying that GG feels he has a chance of winning against 4 windus/kit fistos or thats the kind of quality and quantity needed to have a chance of stopping him
Some noted Jedi he defeated and killed
-lightsabers: a guide to the force 2010
In an Infinities magazine issue of TCW. Grievous and Anakin meet During the attack on Kamino where Grievous seems to hold the upper hand against anakin. Even noting it takes all he can to dodge and parry the Generals blows
in the ROTS comic is shown disarming kenobi in their duel
-rots comic 2005
GENERAL ACCOLADES
his cybernetics turned him into one of the most feared being in the galaxy
-who are the jedi
Grievous is noted to be a match for most jedi
-rots visual dictionary 2005
he is as skilled as any jedi with a lightsaber
-star wars legacy figure 2008
is called quite evenly matched in intelligence with master Yoda, but has the cunning of one turned evil. Implying that at least in dueling IQ grievous may be superior
-insider 102
him and his guards are a match for even the most skilled jedi
-insider 80
has been taught by dooku in the seven classic lightsaber forms
Called a nightmare of lethal precision, wielding lightsabers as well as any jedi
general grievous unleashed figure 2005
has killed more jedi than any other
-Obi-wan's foe 2005
A young Boba Fett meeting Grievous considers him the most powerful thing he's ever seen (which would include the likes of Durge, windu, his father jango and any other jedi/warriors)
star wars: a new threat 2004
a master of the double bladed lightsaber
general grievous electronic double saber 2010
Has killed countless clones and Jedi
-star wars general grievous comic 2005
Dooku regards Grievous as more powerful then Ventress
Grievous could spin his arms in a whirl of light few could withstand
general grievous databank
his ingenuity and cunning makes him almost invincible against the jedi
an almost invincible opponent against even the strongest of jedi
tops 2005 revenge of the sith card
called almost invincible
a deadly opponent for the jedi
he uses his 4 arms with deadly skill in combat
his mechanical enhancements combined with his unorthodox fighting style gave him an edge in combat
-star wars databank
According to grievous he's mastered the jedi's weapon
-general grievous 2005
called the most prolific jedi slaughterer since Durge
a worker on the 2003 the clone wars talks about the different techniques for Grievous
Dooku notes how Grievous within a few weeks has surpassed his other apprentices. once more placing Grievous above the likes of Ventress, Sev'rance Tann and other dark apprentices early in the Clone wars
-star wars encyclopedia 2008
2005 revenge of the Sith game from Lucasarts guide book calls Grievous more deadly then Count Dooku
Windu comments on how Dooku found a worthy ally in Grievous and he has bested many Great Jedi
-General Grievous comic 2005
Can outfight most jedi and launch into a whirl few can withstand
-General Grievous Databank
- Ghost of Grievous
part 4 - notable battles
May 28th 2022, 3:06 pm
NOTABLE BATTLES
HYPORI
The battle of Hypori was where he officially made his Debut to the Galactic stage. Where he faced a collection of jedi and clones
he wiped out the jedi on Hypori in hand to hand combat
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-ki adi mundi databank
-k'kruhk databank
Master Barrek and his padawan Shaa'gi were the first to fall
-complete encyclopedia 2008
The jedi sent there was called an "elite strike force"
- tarr seirr databank
Windu calls the jedi at Hypori Great
-star wars general grievous 2005
the jedi were surprised at the ease in which grievous took apart this "knot" of fully trained jedi, the some of the best of them like shaak ti only survived due to perfectly honed training combined with natural cunning, even then her chances of survival was questionable
-new essential chronology 2005
-hunt for the jedi: grievous vs shaak ti statue 2013
"she's stabilized sir. she just might make it"
-arc trooper to ki-adi mundi on shaak ti's injuries (OCW 2003)
is said to fight the team on hypori with "spectacular moves and frightening ease"
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it was the battle of hypori that cemented the rumors heard on the galactic network that in fact grievous is real and just as mythical as they thought
-hasbro titanium statue 2006
Ki adi mundi, likely the most senior and most powerful jedi amongst the group when Shaa'gi claims they cant face him responds with "we must try" in a way conceding and agreeing with the padawan that they in fact cannot face him and come out alive (2:05-2:13)
Full battle below
GREVIOUS VS WINDU
Grievous and windu have crossed paths a handful of times throughout the Clone wars. Only ever engaging in combat a few times. Here i shall show every encounter they have (this is not in chorological order)in Obsession Greivous attacks the group of Jedi, upon seeing the General Windu orders everyone to regroup immediately
-star wars obsession 2005
after killing Adi, Mace Windu decides to not fight him but instead slam him with a speeder
-star wars obsession 2005
in 19BBY a young boba engages in a fight with master windu
-boba fett: pursuit 2004
I bring this up because in the book prior he suffered injuries from grievous that carried over into his battle with mace. which is mentioned in the last quote but here is a few others
-Star Wars: Boba Fett: Pursuit 2004
his first time encounter with the general, where his magna guards inflicted great injuries on him that made him fake his death before grievous could finish him
-boba fett: a new threat 2004
while I showed only a fraction of the encounter boba was hopelessly outmatched against GG's guards let alone the general himself who grievously (heh ) injured him as he would go on to beat the crap out of mace.
in Star wars elite Squadron mace windu and Grievous engage in combat. with Mace pleading with X2 that he cant beat Grievous alone
-star wars elite squadron 2009
Grievous’ rival in Obi-Wan can push Mace to the limit and score some wins.
- Star Wars Lightsaber Duels 2008[No Rounds Won] “You’ve tested my skills to the limit, Obi-Wan. Well done.” (Mace Windu)
• “You are one of the most promising young Jedi I have ever seen, Obi-Wan.” (Mace Windu)
• “Need I remind you Master, I’ve beaten you before.” (Obi-Wan Kenobi to Mace Windu)
• “The first time I bested you in a duel was one of the proudest days of my life.” (Obi-Wan Kenobi to Mace Windu)
• “You just might achieve victory.” (Mace Windu)
• “You might be better than Master Windu.” (Ahsoka Tano) Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels
during the clone wars grievous and mace crossed pathes again. with mace boasting on how he will never win and grievous picking up and pointing out his lack of confidence in his words
there is their duel in LOE. where Greivous using 2 sabers engages with a duel with mace on top of a train. It should be noted that Grievous is hindered both with his feet and use of two sabers while mace has no such hindrances. even then mace notes his strikes are astonishingly fast and as strong as any he's encountered
and of course within the time they faced Grievous almost perfectly replicates Maces trump card fighting style Vaapad with scary amounts of accuracy resulting in mace not wishing to continue to fight
Mathhew Stover, author of the ROTS novel when writing his book after having read all past material of Grievous felt it was believable and plausible that kenobi should be sent over windu cause windu could not beat him (citing LOE)
-Matthew Stover, Wampa lair Podcast 2021
and then there is their brief encounter in OCW where Mace opts to not fight Grievous and instead force crush him
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However with the OCW force crush there runs a sort of contradiction between that and what happens in LOE. we could say both happened and be done with it but I believe that the depictions of LOE if push came to shove should supersede that of OCW. for starters LOE had a lot of oversight by Lucas as confirmed by the author in a Q&A
and then Sue Rostoni provides her feedback by saying that the events of LOE provide a more accurate, historical perspective of events (unfortunately the link is dead and thus no further info can be obtained)
However you may take these as you will.
GRIEVOUS VS KIT FISTO
The famous battle with Jedi Councillor Kit Fisto from the TCW episode "lair of Grievous" I shall present some evidence that I hope will change your perspective on the fight and its possible outcome
To start I wish to call to attention their first engagement in the halls of his home. There he fights off Kit fisto and his padawan while surrounded by clones. Its noted that it took all they had to repel grievous' assaults and stop his advances meanwhile grievous' own home was hindering his ability to mount a proper offense as the hallows were too narrow. something shown explicitly within the episode itself
after his scrap with the clones and undergoing repairs his doctor notes that he should be resting, which he ignores to go fight the jedi (00:50)
-lair of grievous episode guide
with even the novel of the fight adding some flavor to it with black smoke pouring from Grievous' armor as he leaps to face Kit fisto
as the fight started Kit primarily stuck to hiding in the Fog instead of fighting Grievous outright, using it to his advantage. Like with the walls this is reflected in the episode
-lair of grievous episode guide
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-lair of grievous episode guide
however Grievous' entry in Starwars.com tells the opposite
The coming battle on the platform was described as Fierce, heated and an excellent fight, with Fisto needing all his Skills
-kit fisto clone wars figure 2010
jedi master kit explores heart of evil in lair of grievous -sw.com 2008
-grievous encyclopedia-relation kit fisto
it should also be noted that Kit Fisto felt escape was the only option even back when his padawan was Alive, indicating Kit didnt think they could beat Grievous in his Home despite devising a plan before hand.
-the clone wars rewatch: the lair of grievous
For a conclusion, Kit Fisto had a Fierce, Heated and excellent fight with a Grievous still recovering from his injuries while using three sabers against kit using two.
We can also examine some stat cards of their TCW incarnations to gleam some insight on how a normal level fight may play out
-tops series 2 ATTAK cards 2011
-respective action figures 2010
-tops the clone wars cards 2008
-galaxy at war miniature series 2009
(these two were apart of the same series)
GRIEVOUS VS KENOBI TCW
Grievous and Kenobi Faced many times in the Clone wars, almost as many times as Dooku and anakin
its been stated that they are a battle of equals
-star wars fact file relaunched 69
I plan on examining their fights and skirmishes to conclude who actually was winning from these fights and if it actually was a battle of equals
Ill post a video down below with my comments at various time stamps (first battle begins 1:00)
1. malevolence fight - 1:00 - 1:34
Grievous' brute strength alone is said to be enough to match kenobi's skills
Which seems to be the case seeing as Grievous downs kenobi in one hit, forcing Kenobi to run away. ill award Grievous the win (1-0)
2. fight aboard ship 1:35 - 4:42
a) Grievous lands a kick on kenobi which seems to disoriant him for several seconds. which could've been death had GG not monologued (2-0)
b) Grievous seems to be overpowering kenobi until he decides to TK grievous with a droid. but thats a win for Kenobi (2-1)
c) fight in the tube. not much to conclude unless you want to count the shoulder check as a win (2(3)-1)
3. fight by the pod 4:43 - 5:11
kenobi disarms grievous but kicks him back enough to climb up before kenobi recovers fully. lets call it a tie (2(3)-1 T:1)
4. battle of kamino 5:13 - 6:43
a) Grievous tosses Kenobi around and stops to gloat, seems pretty clear cut win for GG (3(4)-1 T:1)
b) some may choose to count Kenobi's TKing and Grievous running as a win. so be it (3(4)-1(2) T:1)
c) nothing to conclude on the landing platform. results the same (3(4)-1(2) T:1)
5. battle on the venator 6:44 - 8:07
Grievous kicks kenobi back hard enough he clutches his side. the VA for Grievous even noting it
Kenobi even opting to get help from cody and then retreating. if people wish to count GG running as a loss the same should apply for kenobi (3(5)-1(2) t:1)
6. unfinished Episode 8:07 - 9:20
this is pretty easy win for Grievous. not much more to say (4(6) - 1(2) T:1)
7. the battle of Utapau
well we know how this goes so no comments here. win for kenobi (4(6)-2(3) T:1)
however the utapau fight is regarded as epic, explosive and ferocious
In the ROTS game they fight in a cave and Grievous does a kick spin on him and retreats despite kenobi seeming dazed
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-rots comic 2005
and in battlefront 2 the guide book actually advises you to cheese grievous with saberthrows and to avoid him in saber combat due to how fast and difficult he is
battlefront 2 prima guide 2005
Rob Coleman said in an interview that if grievous actually used all four sabers against kenobi properly he would have been a goner.
-PT achieves
FINAL RESULTS GRIEVOUS: 4 WINS VS KENOBI 2 WINS
MAXIMUM WINS 6 VS 3 WITH 1 TIE
GRIEVOUS VS EETH KOTH
not much to break down in this fight unfortunately
is said to inevitably overpower eeth koth. implying that he would have won regardless
-grievous intrigue episode gallery
Eeth Koth was originally going to die until filoni decided he should live. once more implying that GG would have defeated/killed him
Despite Eeths injury (and if not being saved by a clone, almost getting killed by a commando droid) Grievous faced him fair in combat. Only when he used the force did his guards interfere
like with Fisto here is a comparison of stats
tops series 2 ATTAX 2011
-tops rise of the bounter hunters series 2010
-respective action figures 2010
GRIEVOUS VS VENTRESS & DURGE
Before being appointed to Supreme Commander of the Droid army Grievous had to defeat his "rivals" being Ventress and Durge (he likely would have also had fought sev'rance Tann had she been alive)to start he gets the drop on both of them, easily batting them around and vanishing into the shadows
TO BE CONTINUED
this is actually an extremely impressive display, allow me to elaborate as to why. note what durge says in the last bubble
he's admitting that he is fast. which normally thats decent praise. HOWEVER, its not the words themselves but rather who they are coming from. Durge has been noted to being able to see jedi move in slow motion to him. jedi like kenobi and skywalker
-star wars obsession 2005
Durge also boasts that he can feel a heartbeat from 200 meters away and how jedi like kenobi cant sneak up on him because of him being a "walking nerve cluster"
and yet general grievous is both admittedly very fast for a guy who sees jedi in slow motion and manages to sneak up on him and down him so easily he calls him pathetic
RESUMING BATTLE
this is decent praise again, this time coming from ventress. despite not even fully engaging or knowing what or who GG is she already feels he is more dangerous then a jedi. it should be noted this fight happens after he defeat at the hand of skywalker, who was at the time a nigh equal with her
star wars databank: asajj ventress
-new essential chronology 2005
keep these in mind moving forward
he pretty much one shots her here. smacking her away with his opening swing
should be pointed out that Grievous handled durge far easier and far faster then OCW kenobi did during their fight on muunilinst
here after getting pushed back by an enraged ventress. whom we've seen preform well above her usual pay grade in this sort of state being completely unable to stop an unarmed grievous from grabbing her and choking her out. which is a stomp if ive ever seen one
Needless to say Grievous bested them rather handily with OOU quotes to support the notion. Even being called more powerful then they could imagine
-star wars databank general grievous
-comic companion 2005
- Ghost of Grievous
part 5 - Qymaen jai Sheelal and Stats
May 28th 2022, 3:07 pm
RESPECT THE WARLORD QYMAEN JAI SHEELAL
The Kaleesh named Qymaen Jai Sheelal was born during a generation spanning war against the insectoid species known as the Huks. Growing up knowing only War and Poverty the young Kaleesh by the age of 8 was already an expert sniper and revered as a Demi-god by the age of 22
-unknown soldier: the story of general grievous insider 86 2006
Essential guide to warfare 2012
Qymaen was also the greatest mastermind on the planet and possibly the whole system (seeing how it was all under Huk control)
-general grievous databank
-ultimate duels 2011
-30th anniversary collection figure - 2008
-legacy of the darkside pre cyborg grievous to general grievous 2010
he along with his partner/rumored lover appeared invincible when together in combat
- the story of general grievous: lord of war 2006
it was this lover that taught him combat with a sword (or at least improved on his skill) and after her death Qymaen launched a revigorated campaign that not only drove the Huks off kalee but off several of their previously conquered worlds and then eventually their entire system and homeworld. killing thousands of Huks
- the story of general grievous: lord of war 2006
-labyrinth of evil 2005
-unknown soldier: the story of grievous 2006
-new essential guide to alien species 2001
It should be noted that the huk worlds that grievous and company drove the huks back to Tovarskl. Which Jason Fry in a online discussion confirmed that Tovarskl is in an entirely different system than Kalee
-The Essential Atlas and Galactic Cartography: Official Discussion
its also worth noting that the huks were a technologically superior foe at the time. the kalee people were primarily using slugthrowers (such as qymaen for much of his life) which is inaccurate and have poor penetration, on top of its ammunition being hard to come by or having to be made by hand.
-unknown soldier: the story of grievous 2006
the fact that grievous with such poor weaponry was able to rack up 40 kills by the age of 8 and be regarded as a expert marksmen with such poor weapons and also go on to wage a war and also turn the tide to have such a utter decimation in their favor that their once oppressors has to run and call the jedi is very telling. its no wonder that the sith masters were eyeing him to be their general for the coming war
STATS
- saga edition core rule book 2007
- wotc villians of revenge of the sith 2005 - pdf reprint
-head 2 head first issue 2010
-head 2 head TCW 2012
-Galactic file trading card 2012
-tops special clone wars 2007
-tops TCW card 2008
-tops special episodes 1-3 card 2009
-tops rise of the bounty hunter 2010
-insider magazine 102 2008
MINIATURES
-galaxies at war expansion 2009
-revenge of the sith expansion 2005
-revenge of the sith expansion 2005
-revenge of the sith starter game exclusive 2005
-clone strike expansion 2004
clone wars expansion 2008
-masters of the force expansion 2010
THANK YOU FOR READING. RESPECT GENERAL GRIEVOUS
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