TPM Sidious vs Novel Revan

Azronger wrote:@NotAA3

On what basis is TPM Sidious a tier 9?

1. Sidious hit his full potential when he killed his Master.
2. Yet he was still afraid to fight him, putting closeness between Plagueis and even post-boost Sidious, so obviously pre-boost Sidious would be close to post-boost Sidious as well.

[...]

Conclusion: TPM Sidious is a 9.

What's the argument for Sidious hitting his full potential after killing Plagueis? Seems like a pretty bold claim. 

As for Sidious' fear of engaging Plagueis after his sudden power increase, I assume you're referring to this quote? 

Darth Plagueis, pp. 2-3 wrote:If he hadn't been concerned for his own safety, Sidious might have pitied him. Wary of approaching the corpse of his former master[...] The being who had guided him to power was gone.

If so, then your assertion that this puts "closeness between Plagueis and even post-boost Sidious" is rather objectionable. Throughout the book, it's a recurring concern of Palpatine's that he has no idea where he stands combatively in relation to Plagueis. For example:

Darth Plagueis, p. 335 wrote:Sidious knew that his own powers had increased tenfold over the decades, but he couldn't be certain that he had learned all of Plagueis's secrets - "his sorcerer's ways," as the Sun Guards referred to them - including the ability to prevent beings from dying. He sometimes wondered: Was he a level behind? Two levels behind? 

While anyone with eyes has to concede that Sidious was indeed soiling his trousers at the notion of facing Plagueis one-on-one, this quote elucidates his reasoning. He never knew the extent to which he was Plagueis' inferior, if at all. He was constantly unsure if Plagueis had just one more card up his sleeve, one technique or power that would give him the edge over Sidious if the two were to fight. Even though Sidious' "own powers had increased tenfold" (sound familiar?), he had no way of knowing whether that was enough to topple Hego in a duel, and it's very probable that this same line of reasoning inspired Sidious' trepidation after he finally killed Plagueis. 

In other words: your conclusion is inaccurate because Sidious' fear springs from a baseless "what-if" instead of an accurate estimate of Plagueis' might.

@DarthAnt66


Reminder