Revan Reborn, T3, Meetra and Scourge vs. TPM Sidious

Same starting conditions as the Revan novel fight.

The team wins

Post boost prolly takes it, Revan soloes pre boost

Sidious obliterates

Revan isn't soloing pre-boost. Sidious wins.

sidious wins 


meetra gets the fisto treatment 

scourge gets the kolar treatment 

revan gets the plagueis treatment

T3 solos

Sidious wins, boost or no boost.

@Corvinus: Why?

@IG Why are you singling me out?

I'm not? I opened a thread and responded to somebody. Lmfao. By that logic Azronger or DC (when he was here) were/are both singling me out.

@IG You specifically tagged me. I don't know what Azronger or DC have done to you in the past, or how it's relevant.

You were the user directly above me. I meant that people responding to me in a thread that disagree. DC and Az were examples of people that disagree with me quite often, just random names thrown out.

Sidious stomps.

Revan solo

Bergmar wrote:Revan solo

Reasons?

HellfireUnit wrote:
Reasons?

He is the Heart of the Force. He stomped Nyriss (most powerful sith of the dark council and entire sith empire, except the Emperor), who stomped Meetra (which alone killed a hundred Sith at the Malachor Academy). He fought with Vitiate, who absorbed all life on the planet, and lost after a long time, and not immediately. He was able redirect forcelightning with hands, like Yoda. I would say that Revan is kind of chosen one of the Old Republic era.

My opinion is:

Revan Reborn>Traya>Sidious(RotS)>Nyriss>Meetra>>>Scourge.

Bergmar wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:
Reasons?

He is the Heart of the Force. He stomped Nyriss (most powerful sith of the dark council and entire sith empire, except the Emperor), who stomped Meetra (which alone killed a hundred Sith at the Malachor Academy). He fought with Vitiate, who absorbed all life on the planet, and lost after a long time, and not immediately. He was able redirect forcelightning with hands, like Yoda. I would say that Revan is kind of chosen one of the Old Republic era.

My opinion is:

Revan Reborn>Traya>Sidious(RotS)>Nyriss>Meetra>>>Scourge.

The Revan wank is hard in this one.

Darth Nihilus wrote:

The Revan wank is hard in this one.

Did you asked him personally?

Palpatine

The Strike Team.

Revan (Reborn) is absolutely capable of challenging Palpatine on his own. His incredible RAW POWER and his incredible defensive techniques by extension, his rather (unique) ability to draw strength from the Light and the Dark at the same time to his advantage, as well as his remarkable Battle Precognition which enabled him to predict duelings moves with extreme clarity - is a RARE combination of talents in a single individual which even Yoda not had.

As established in the following thread: https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t3519-vaylin-vs-yoda

Tenebrae produce most lethal expressions of Force Lightning by far. If Yoda were in Revan shoe's, he would have been TOAST as well.

The others are very likely to reinforce Revan's chances against Palpatine. T3-M4 was able to score a hit on Tenebrae, but its bad luck was that Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge were not nearby.

Comparing Kit Fisto to Meetra Surik and Agen Kolar to Lord Scourge is a laugh-worthy proposition. Neither of the former two of PT era had much experience with Sith; much of their opposition were the Battle Droids. Fisto held his own against a disoriented General Grievous for a while but had to give up when Magnaguards arrived. Kolar bested Quinlan Vos in Legends continuity but this does not tell us much in regards to both, only that Kolar is above-average. Vos is much stronger and capable in Canon continuity instead.

Surik is not a joke, she was capable of handling powerful Force-users on her own. For example: https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t3336-meetra-surik-versus-vrook-lamar

Although, she had company in taking care of Darth Nihilus, she was able to defeat Darth Sion and Darth Traya respectively - very impressive credentials. Darth Traya was more LETHAL and CAPABLE than Count Dooku to begin with. Surik's loss to Darth Nyriss is/was due to the latter's incredible speed and battle acumen, but this does not suggest that Surik will loose to every notable Lord of the Sith in a fight.

Surik could actually strike at Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) from AFAR with her telekinetically-controlled lightsaber throw, but she chose to save Revan instead. A monumental miscalculation I would say, but she was in a dilemma (she could either save Revan or strike at the Emperor). The Emperor could cheat death, therefore, saving Revan was better decision.

Lord Scourge was an EXPERT SWORDSMAN as well, and one of the finest graduates produced by the Sith Academy in a while. He was able to cope with tough situations well enough even when he was at a disadvantage, and when he would be in solid frame of mind, he had a rare talent up his sleeve:

"I have studied your records from the Academy and observed your battle with the mercenaries in my courtyard," she said at last. "You have a special gift. You do not just feed on the raw emotions of your foe; you gorge yourself on them. You feast on their primal fear. It amplifies your hate and anger. It fuels the power of the Force. It transforms you into an instrument of death and destruction."

Scourge nodded. Battling a living foe was intoxicating; with each attack and counter he felt a rush of heat coursing through his veins, energizing and empowering him. Yet he had felt almost none of that at the UDM plant. "When I fought the security droid, there was nothing to grab on to. It was cold. Empty."

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

While I do not think that T3-M4, Surik and Lord Scourge are equipped to handle Palpatine on their own, but they can be DEADLY in SUPPORTIVE CONTEXT, and Revan would ENABLE them to undermine Palpatine while he does the heavy-lifting.

Pre or post boost? If the former, team wins, if the latter, probably Sidious.

Pre-boost Sidious is still canonically more powerful than Vitiate, and much more skilled. He isn't losing to this team.

Azronger wrote:Pre-boost Sidious is still canonically more powerful than Vitiate, and much more skilled. He isn't losing to this team.

So in the canon there is no logic. He cannot be stronger than the one who devoured an entire planet into himself.

Bergmar wrote:

Azronger wrote:Pre-boost Sidious is still canonically more powerful than Vitiate, and much more skilled. He isn't losing to this team.

So in the canon there is no logic. He cannot be stronger than the one who devoured an entire planet into himself.

That’s like saying that |THIS| car is faster than the second car because it has crashed into a tree