TPM Kenobi vs ANH Ben Kenobi

Standard shit, who wins?

ANH every time. much more skilled in all senses of the word. and while he isnt as agile, he is faster and and stronger, due to superior force augmentation, alongside exp and wits

Ben dominates with the Force and is arguably just as good in physicals given his ability to hold off Vader's blows, albeit he was losing. TPM Obi-Wan would have the speed advantage but not only would Ben know the weaknesses of his fighting style, but also know how to exploit them while conserving energy.

In short, Ben 10/10. Much more powerful, comparable physicals, ridiculously more experience and knows not only the weaknesses of his younger counterpart but also know how to exploit them.

never mind the better powers too- he could honestly mind fuck young kenobi, or drain him, or like, whats it called, cancel out his force?

Yeah because Ben can totally do those things

Ben roflstomps.

TPM Kenobi. Younger, fresher, faster, more athletic, more powerful, better stamina, better offensive power.
One is a warrior in his prime another is a retired pensioner who’s seen better days. No contest.

Ben unlike RotS Kenobi or even AotC Kenobi doesn't have the stamina or the endurance he used to have to ride the storm. He tired pretty fast against Vader in a low-intensity tactical duel. Kenobi will cut right through him like cutting butter with a hot knife.

13 year old Kenobi vs Ben is a better fight.

my money´s on an old man

ANH stomps.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:never mind the better powers too- he could honestly mind fuck young kenobi, or drain him, or like, whats it called, cancel out his force?

Even if he could do that, he wouldn't. It's not in his character.

he used drain on luke, didnt he? and he has that white power thingy, that cancels u out from the force. and it doesnt say in character?

and the duel wasnt low intensity at all lol if he missed a move, vader was gonna cut him in half in less than a second

Eh? Ben's never used drain on Luke, and no idea what you mean by the cancelling out the Force. Also, standard rules generally means in-character.

i was sure that i head somewhere that he used drain on luke to keep him hidden... huh, guess not then. and i meant that power that people like nomi has, that can block someone from the force. i thought he had that too.

i looked it up to be sure, and he really doenst have them lol well fuck. so yeah, the only hax he has going for him is mind fuckery

ben doesn´t need these hax to beat TPM obi wan anyway .

i know i know, im just trying to give some insight on the matter. people dont seem to understand how good of a feat holding urself against vader is. even fighting pre prime vader is already kinda incredible.

Ben wins this matchup. However Vader is not incredible lmao.

KingofBlades wrote:Ben wins this matchup. However Vader is not incredible lmao.

One day you'll be able to stop crapping on Vader. Now that will be incredible.

I don't see how having Vader in the same tier as RotS Kenobi is lowballing but whatever

TPM Kenobi vs Darth Vader from DL:TRODV would be a good fight tbh

Ben absolutely obliterates

i made a respect for vader. his 18 BBY self is literally a beast. that so far pre prime thats its sad

All versions of Vader suck, let's be real here.

It’s amazing how Vader can go from being considered Dooku’s superior, to being sub-TPM Kenobi.

He's not the only character whose power varies wildly depending on the person. Valk ranges from sub Plagueis to being equal or superior to GM Luke. Krayt likewise has a similar variance when it comes to people's opinions on his power

Latham2000 wrote:It’s amazing how Vader can go from being considered Dooku’s superior, to being sub-TPM Kenobi.

that is just trolling obviously .

Latham2000 wrote:It’s amazing how Vader can go from being considered Dooku’s superior, to being sub-TPM Kenobi.

Two different narratives. Writers of novels and sourcebooks can't agree if he's a washed-up crippled old warrior or if he's at the height of his powers. 

We should just accept that in regards to the OT era Vader is consistently portrayed as the former. All his feats are consistent with Lucas's statements of Vader and Ben being post-prime. 

I mean is it really hard to believe TPM Kenobi someone the same age as ESB Luke but with better training since birth and well seasoned over many gruelling missions since he was 13 is superior and would perform better than the version of Luke who gave Vader a good fight? The one that is superior to the version of Vader that is superior to ANH Kenobi?