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The EllimistLevel Five
Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:49 am
RotS Sidious
Yoda
Zonakin / KF Vader / Mustafar Vader (whichever you think is most combatively powerful)
Peak Mace Windu
EoRotS Obi Wan
vs.
Valkorion
Outlander
Vaylin
Arcann
Revan
Starting distance: 20 meters
Yoda
Zonakin / KF Vader / Mustafar Vader (whichever you think is most combatively powerful)
Peak Mace Windu
EoRotS Obi Wan
vs.
Valkorion
Outlander
Vaylin
Arcann
Revan
Starting distance: 20 meters
dark_globe
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 4:17 am
Shioz wrote:HellfireUnit wrote:PT team stomps.
obi wan gets ragdolled (as always in such match ups)
zonakin and amped mace would shread vaylin , outlander and arcann to pieces faster than they could blink .
yoda and sheev are enough to put down valk .
IGLevel Four
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 6:41 am
Close one... Revan and Valk are MVP’s here, and each take Sidious and Yoda respectively. Valk >> ROTS Sheev, and Revan = Yoda.... Valk beats Sidious, and screws the rest of the team over, and the Outlander and Vaylin together are able to take KF Vader, while Arcann beats Obi Wan.
HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 7:14 am
IdrisianGraecus wrote:Close one... Revan and Valk are MVP’s here, and each take Sidious and Yoda respectively. Valk >> ROTS Sheev, and Revan = Yoda.... Valk beats Sidious, and screws the rest of the team over, and the Outlander and Vaylin together are able to take KF Vader, while Arcann beats Obi Wan.
No way Revan = Yoda or Valk > TPM Sidious let alone RotS Sidious.
BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 2:00 pm
TOR team because of Valk. However, if Yoda, Mace, Sidious and Vader defeat their opponents fast enough, they might be able to overwhelm him.
It honestly depends who fights who:
Sidious will probably challenge Valk and it depends how long he can last against him.
Yoda beats the Outlander or Vaylin in a great fight.
Vader beats Vaylin or the Outlander in a great fight.
Peak Mace beats Arcann low to mid difficulty.
Kenobi stalls Arcann for long enough for either Mace, Vader or Yoda to intervene and turn the tide. I do think Mustafar Kenobi did jump to a high level 8, but it won't be enough to help him beat Revan who's a fair bit more powerful, and Obi-Wan's saber advantage won't kick in fast enough to save him. The best he can hope is to delay.
If Sheev manages to hold off Valk long enough then I might say the PT wins. However, it seems more likely to me that he'll beat Sidious, then he and the Outlander tag-team Yoda, then they mop up by taking out Vader, Mace and Obi-Wan.
It honestly depends who fights who:
Sidious will probably challenge Valk and it depends how long he can last against him.
Yoda beats the Outlander or Vaylin in a great fight.
Vader beats Vaylin or the Outlander in a great fight.
Peak Mace beats Arcann low to mid difficulty.
Kenobi stalls Arcann for long enough for either Mace, Vader or Yoda to intervene and turn the tide. I do think Mustafar Kenobi did jump to a high level 8, but it won't be enough to help him beat Revan who's a fair bit more powerful, and Obi-Wan's saber advantage won't kick in fast enough to save him. The best he can hope is to delay.
If Sheev manages to hold off Valk long enough then I might say the PT wins. However, it seems more likely to me that he'll beat Sidious, then he and the Outlander tag-team Yoda, then they mop up by taking out Vader, Mace and Obi-Wan.
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 2:34 pm
Yoda, Mace and Sidious would all wreck Valkorion. The latter doesn't possess the strength to defeat or keep up with Yoda or Sidious. Mace uses Valkorion's own strength against him due to Vaapad therefore Valkorion isn't going to Force Push, Choke, TP Windu. Since Valkorion's lightning isn't as strong as RotS Sidious', Mace just deflects his bolts and proceeds to butcher Vitiate.
KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 2:44 pm
Valkorion is the mvp but I think the PT has too many heavy hitters for the TOR team to win.
- IGLevel Four
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:26 pm
Revan is pretty much an equal to Yoda and Sidious, and Valk is somewhere between ROTJ and DE Sidious, the latter of which could beat Yoda and ROTS Sidious.
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:32 pm
Sidious is the strongest practioner of Dark Side and the Sith as of RotS. Valkorion doesn't come any close to that even with his rituals. Valkorion's lightning cannot bend sabers, Valkorion cannot cloud the judgment of Jedi, create disturbance in the Force by affecting the creation directly. Valkorion even cannot hide his presence in certain situations and was spotted by fodders. Not to mention Valkorion cannot even keep up with the speed of anyone here. Revan being equal to Yoda or Sidious is respectfully bollocks brother. Revan is strong in the Force, everyone knows that. But not that strong. Yoda and Sidious are the strongest practioners of the Force until post-Endor and that is a fact.
- IGLevel Four
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:34 pm
Valk draining Ziost in 30 seconds flat without a ritual as a spirit is >>>>> ROTS Sidious’ feats
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:34 pm
IdrisianGraecus wrote:Valk draining Ziost in 30 seconds flat without a ritual as a spirit is >>>>> ROTS Sidious’ feats
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:39 pm
Vali draining Ziost is a ritual. Besides that, he nested there and took his time to drove the people of planet mad. Where in the hell it has been stated to be 30 seconds by the way?
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:41 pm
And even with all those amps and rituals, Valkorion's lightning isn't as strong as Sidious, lol.
PraxisModerator | Champion of the Light
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:44 pm
HellfireUnit wrote:Valkorion's lightning isn't as strong as Sidious
Care to explain? I saw you say this somewhere else too.
NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:48 pm
S I D I O U S D A M O S T P O W A F U L S I F L O R D D O E.
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 3:52 pm
Praxis wrote:HellfireUnit wrote:Valkorion's lightning isn't as strong as Sidious
Care to explain? I saw you say this somewhere else too.
Sure thing my man, let me switch to my PC first.
GuestGuest
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 4:00 pm
@HellfireUnit
Your evidence for this is? I'm also pretty sure the codex says it isn't.
Yeah, so he could regain enough strength to drain the planet (yet he still wasn't at full strength despite this).
That's how long it takes him in-game IIRC.
Vali draining Ziost is a ritual.
Your evidence for this is? I'm also pretty sure the codex says it isn't.
Besides that, he nested there and took his time to drove the people of planet mad.
Yeah, so he could regain enough strength to drain the planet (yet he still wasn't at full strength despite this).
Where in the hell it has been stated to be 30 seconds by the way?
That's how long it takes him in-game IIRC.
- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 4:15 pm
HellfireUnit wrote:And even with all those amps and rituals, Valkorion's lightning isn't as strong as Sidious, lol.
I mean, he one-shot a character whose abilities were considered to be "second to none" amongst the Empire's forces.
Also, Ziost wasn't really a ritual. It was Vitiate first replenishing most of his strength then just completely draining the planet.
- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 4:19 pm
@NotAA3 I think it's this you were talking about (sorry if not): 'Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side of the Force taken to its extreme.'
- GuestGuest
Re: Team PT vs. Team TOR
September 3rd 2019, 4:21 pm
BreakofDawn wrote:@NotAA3 I think it's this you were talking about (sorry if not): 'Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side of the Force taken to its extreme.'
Yeah, I was talking about that.
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