Mustafar Vader hindered or not?

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Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader wrote:Anakin had still been between worlds then, and vulnerable. 

KingofBlades wrote:Hmmmm a tier 8 stalemating a tier 9. Hmmmm. The tier 9 couldn't possibly be hindered.

 The Ultimate Visual Guide wrote:As every step becomes more perilous and Vader's attacks more ferocious, Obi-Wan realizes that he still cares for Anakin, and that the only way he can defeat his opponent is to let go of his feelings for his former friend. When Obi-Wan releases this emotional attachment, the battle turns for the Jedi. 

KingofBlades wrote:If that were true Gillard would have said that Kenobi starts as an 8 but becomes a 9 later on in the movie like he did with Anakin

KingofBlades wrote:It makes far more sense than arguing that Kenobi became a tier 9 despite Gillard explicitly saying Kenobi was an 8.

MasterCilghal wrote:There is only one quote that points to him being somewhat weaker, but he is still a level 9, as indicated by Gillard. 

Source: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader wrote:Anakin had still been between worlds then, and vulnerable. 

However, until Kenobi did not let go of his emotions towards Anakin he was getting pretty much overwhelmed. Only after he achieved an emotional growth that placed them on pretty much the same level.

KingofBlades wrote:Ive also seen the argument that Kenobi started the fight on Mustafar hindered making him weaker than he was when he fought Dooku or GG. Obi Wan letting go merely brought him back to where he was normally.

MasterCilghal wrote:Not necessarily saying he became a 9 but he did increase substantially. There is no way he would have been able to stalemate Vader.

RotS Script:

O-Siri wrote:Who said anything about a stalemate? Anakin was forcing Kenobi to give ground the entire time even after he let go of his attachment; Kenobi had previously stonewalled Grievous and Dooku without giving any ground, which should be a very strong indication of how much of an advantage Anakin still possessed and how powerful he is relative to those two. The script also  makes it very clear Kenobi was forced to give ground too and that it wasn't just willingly giving ground as a strategic move: 

Still, the fight continued, even as the collection tower sank slowly into the lava. And still, neither man could gain an advantage.
Source: Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization




Years of fighting side-by-side left these warriors evenly matched, and their exhausting duel crossed the fiery landscape of a Mustafar refinery.
Source: Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force

DarthAnt66 wrote:Immensely hindered. Obi isn’t near Sidious/Yoda.

O-Siri wrote:
Who said anything about a stalemate? Anakin was forcing Kenobi to give ground the entire time even after he let go of his attachment; Kenobi had previously stonewalled Grievous and Dooku without giving any ground, which should be a very strong indication of how much of an advantage Anakin still possessed and how powerful he is relative to those two. The script also  makes it very clear Kenobi was forced to give ground too and that it wasn't just willingly giving ground as a strategic move: 

In every exchange, Obi-Wan gave ground. It was his way. And he knew that to strike Anakin down would burn his own heart to ash.

Source: ROTS Novelization

Mustafar hummed with death behind his back, only a moment away, somewhere out there among the rivers of molten rock. Obi-Wan let Anakin drive him toward it. It was a place, he decided, they should reach together. Anakin forced him back and back, slamming his blade down with strength that seemed to flow from the volcano overhead. He spun and whirled and sliced razor-sharp shards of steel from the wall and shot them at Obi-Wan with the full heat of his fury.

Source: ROTS Novelization

Obi-Wan backed to the end of the balcony; behind him was only a power conduit no thicker than his arm, connecting it to the main collection plant of the old lava mine, over a riverbed that flowed with white-hot molten stone. Obi-Wan stepped backward onto the conduit without hesitation, his balance flawless as he parried chop after chop.

Source: ROTS Novelization

Obi-Wan turned his dive into a forward roll that left him barely teetering on the rim of a low cliff, just above the soft black sand of the riverbank. Anakin snarled a curse as he realized he'd been suckered, and leapt off his droid at Obi-Wan's back---

Half a second too slow.

Obi-Wan's whirl to parry didn't meet Anakin's blade. It met his knee. Then his other knee.

And while Anakin was still in the air, burned-off lower legs only starting their topple down the cliff, Obi-Wan's recovery to guard brought his blade through Anakin's left arm above the elbow. He stepped back as Anakin fell.

Source: ROTS Novelization