Jaina Solo vs Darth Bane

TheGlory wrote:Bane, tbh.

The Divine Source wrote:Reasons for why either character wins?

Jaina felt Jacen then; he was throttling Mirta to let Tahiri escape into the docking tube above the hatch. Jaina put every scrap of strength she had into breaking Jacen's invisible Force choke hold on Mirta. She saw it like a black chain and visualized the links flying apart just as Carid shot past her and scrambled up the ladder followed by Vevut.
Legacy of the Force: Revelation

LSDMB wrote:Well I mean, a distracted and injured Caedus ragdolled Jaina in invincible, and she had to use her full strength into breaking Jacen's force choke, and it's not like he was using his full power to choke a non-force sensitive, so trying to compare Jaina in the Force to Caedus doesn't really make any sense.

As far as the dueling stuff, beating fodder isn't exactly beneath Bane's paygrade even as of POD, and Jaina is obviously not the combat equal of Luke Skywalker. That accolade reminds me somewhat of Anoon Bondara's accolade of having "unparalleled" dueling ability when he obviously didn't.

ILS wrote:Yeah but Jaina is the combat equal of anyone in the Jedi Order

ILS wrote:Yeah but Jaina is the combat equal of anyone in the Jedi Order

mastercilghal wrote:Furthermore Jaina has fought evenly with Kyp Durron in Dark Journey.

mastercilghal wrote: Furthermore, the book notes that that the dark side nexus was more powerful than Ziost , which both helped the Sith and hindered the two jedi’s Reflexes, to the point where Luke himself was being challenged by them. It is quite impressive.

ɢᴏᴀᴛ wrote:

mastercilghal wrote: Furthermore, the book notes that that the dark side nexus was more powerful than Ziost , which both helped the Sith and hindered the two jedi’s Reflexes, to the point where Luke himself was being challenged by them. It is quite impressive.

No, he wasn't lmao.

ILS wrote:I think cilghal is fighting a losing battle here honestly, you can only do so much with the material available. I'll make a more suitable thread for Jaina.

The Divine Source wrote:Yeah, not sure why it’s so clear cut that Jaina wins this. Bane even as of PoD is capable of shrugging off and easily crushing Lord Kaan, who could influence the entire Dark Brotherhood with a nigh-irresistible call to gather at Ruusan, forcibly pull the minds of dozens/hundreds of Sith Lords to disengage from Bane’s lightning ritual, and resist the pull of Thought Bomb as a spirit while in its direct vicinity (this bomb being a far more potent ritual than the planet-killing storm unleashed earlier, consuming a thousand or more Jedi and Sith). Bane gains an absurd boost in power after donning a mere pair of orbalisks at the start of RoT, to the point where he arguably experienced a greater surge of power than that of the lightning ritual from PoD. I won’t speak to the definitiveness of this notion, but suffice it to say, even Bane with two orbalisks has a huge line of scaling beyond the impressiveness of anything mentioned for Jaina here. This isn’t even mentioning the even more massive gap between Bane with two orbalisks and Bane with a full set of orbalisk armor, or the gap between Orbalisk Bane and DoE Bane.

So far, from what I’ve seen, Bane stomps. Bane with 2 orbalisks >> PoD Bane >> Kaan ~ tanking Thought Bomb, TP’ing hundreds/thousands of Sith Lords on multiple occasions

LOTL wrote:

Based on what is Bane capable of "crushing" Kaan?

Isn't it agreed that Kaan is the most powerful Brotherhood member? And did Kas'im not resist Bane's tk, that too twice? Wasn't Bane too labelled as much too strong for Kas'im or something?

Maybe Karpyshyn's idea of being much more powerful is different from yours?

LOTL wrote:As to the greatest surge of power, the statement also says that he released that power. If that were the case that it is supposed to scale over the firestorm ritual, don't you think Dxun would you know, maybe be vastly damaged as a result?

Wouldn't the frenzy filled force release of Bane after he had more than a 100 Orbalisks obliterate Ambria? Or atleast cause an earthquake other than simply destroying a campsite in a state of force rage not even sensed by his disciple?