Re: Darth Plagueis runs an Old Republic gauntlet

August 26th 2019, 1:46 am

Azronger wrote:
Stops at Valkorion or clears.

August 26th 2019, 2:58 am

ILS wrote:

Deronn_Solo wrote:Stops at Valkorion, and clears the bonus round.

August 26th 2019, 2:40 pm

Gets dropped at unchained Vaylin.

August 26th 2019, 3:05 pm

Stops at Nihilus

August 27th 2019, 7:36 am

So apparently, Plagueis is now on DE Sidious’ level and far above ROTS Sidious if he’s able to beat Valkorion.

August 27th 2019, 7:39 am

Clears.

August 27th 2019, 9:19 am

BreakofDawn wrote:So apparently, Plagueis is now on DE Sidious’ level and far above ROTS Sidious if he’s able to beat Valkorion.

Who said Valkorion is on the level of or above either of those iterations of Sidious?

August 27th 2019, 9:35 am

Valkorion being above any version of Sheev is wrong.

August 27th 2019, 9:44 am

HellfireUnit wrote:Valkorion being above any version of Sheev is wrong.

So 17 year old Sheev > Valkorion?

August 27th 2019, 9:52 am

HellfireUnit wrote:Valkorion being above any version of Sheev is wrong.

Come back with feats from TPM Sheev, ROTS Sheev or even ROTJ Sheev that compare to controlling a considerable portion of a planet while massively weakened, growing powerful enough to effortlessly wipe out a planet in a short space of time without a ritual, one-shotting a character who could overload generators on the strongest planetary void in the galaxy while doing so from orbit, one-shotting and ragdolling a character stronger than even that, creating a Force storm through a host that could wipe out all life within a mile or two of a spire while drastically weakened, being >> Revan, etc.

August 27th 2019, 9:53 am

Azronger wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:So apparently, Plagueis is now on DE Sidious’ level and far above ROTS Sidious if he’s able to beat Valkorion.

Who said Valkorion is on the level of or above either of those iterations of Sidious?

Any feats from ROTS Sidious comparable to the ones I listed?

August 27th 2019, 9:55 am

LSDMB wrote:

ILS wrote:

Deronn_Solo wrote:Stops at Valkorion, and clears the bonus round.

August 27th 2019, 11:54 am

BreakofDawn wrote:

Azronger wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:So apparently, Plagueis is now on DE Sidious’ level and far above ROTS Sidious if he’s able to beat Valkorion.

Who said Valkorion is on the level of or above either of those iterations of Sidious?

Any feats from ROTS Sidious comparable to the ones I listed?

Being above Plagueis.

August 27th 2019, 12:16 pm

Azronger wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:

Azronger wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:So apparently, Plagueis is now on DE Sidious’ level and far above ROTS Sidious if he’s able to beat Valkorion.

Who said Valkorion is on the level of or above either of those iterations of Sidious?

Any feats from ROTS Sidious comparable to the ones I listed?

Being above Plagueis.

Not really establishing him as > Valk considering feats.

August 27th 2019, 5:47 pm

LadyKulvax wrote:

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:Plagueis being capable of telepathically touching every single living being in the galaxy (only failing due to the Force itself stopping him) is yet another example of something far beyond Kun's capabilities. I sincerely hope you don't have Arcann or Malak > Plagueis.

This is literally a Kbro argument.

Free rent is free.

Peralta's on the money though. Kun scaling over something that would eventually, given a vague limited of time done something isn't all that relevant

August 27th 2019, 7:24 pm

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:This "Vaylin & the Outlander are > Revan" BS needs to die.

Except it’s not BS. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not entirely possible and actually pretty likely. Revan might have an edge over Vaylin due to experience and versatility, but not the Outlander who’s already fought him.

August 27th 2019, 8:28 pm

BreakofDawn wrote:

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:This "Vaylin & the Outlander are > Revan" BS needs to die.

Except it’s not BS. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not entirely possible and actually pretty likely. Revan might have an edge over Vaylin due to experience and versatility, but not the Outlander who’s already fought him.

Obviously Vaylin & the Outlander are powerful enough to contend, but by every metric Revan comes out on top of those two. He's got better feats and better scaling.

August 27th 2019, 8:31 pm

BreakofDawn wrote:

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:This "Vaylin & the Outlander are > Revan" BS needs to die.

Except it’s not BS. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not entirely possible and actually pretty likely. Revan might have an edge over Vaylin due to experience and versatility, but not the Outlander who’s already fought him.

I guess part of it depends on whether:

1. You think Valkorion can legitimately curbstomp Outlander + Vaylin together
2. You think the Valkorion-novel Vitiate gap is extremely large

August 27th 2019, 8:37 pm

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:This "Vaylin & the Outlander are > Revan" BS needs to die.

Except it’s not BS. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not entirely possible and actually pretty likely. Revan might have an edge over Vaylin due to experience and versatility, but not the Outlander who’s already fought him.

Obviously Vaylin & the Outlander are powerful enough to contend, but by every metric Revan comes out on top of those two. He's got better feats and better scaling.

Better feats and scaling than overloading reactors while in the orbit of the most potent void in the galaxy, scaring the crap out of Valkorion with her potential and being >>> spirit Valkorion, who could cause a Force storm capable of wiping out all life in the vicinity of the spire? I’m interested to know what feats and scaling this is, especially since most of the Vitiate/Valkorion scaling can be applied to her and the Outlander.

August 27th 2019, 8:43 pm

Vaylin never overloaded any reactors, lmao. She activated the self-destruct sequence. As for the rest, it's nothing Revan hasn't matched or topped.

August 27th 2019, 8:58 pm

August 27th 2019, 9:39 pm

PeraltaEagle45 wrote:Vaylin never overloaded any reactors, lmao. She activated the self-destruct sequence. As for the rest, it's nothing Revan hasn't matched or topped.

Source for it being her activating a self-destruct sequence? The chapter shows her focusing, then a shot of the Outlander as a warning light comes on, then the generators exploding. Again, even if it were she did all of this while orbiting a planet so strong that Valkorion could barely manifest there, and only the Nathema zealots could survive there.

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