★ Top Fifteen Tournament #1 - Luke Skywalker

YVH Cilghal wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:So can someone give an argument as to why Luke is especially effective here? I mean, why? He's super fast or can TK you to a chair? That's cute and all, bit I'm pretty sure rendering everything around you completely immobile and thus defenseless, is more effective.

Well Luke can do this: 

Luke killed the last of Raynar's bodyguards by Force-slamming them into the wall so hard their thoraxes burst

[size=33]Dark Nest III: Swarm War[/size]

[size=33]I mean he did literally one-shot UnuThul’s bodyguards  ( I don’t remember whether or not they were force sensitive or not), I think he could do the same to Malgus, especially considering how he’s going to go all-out in this scenario. [/size]

The Master sighed and shook his head. "What am I going to do with you, Raynar Thul?" he asked. "You learn nothing from your mistakes."
Luke deactivated his lightsaber and picked Raynar up by the collar and slammed him against the wall. He used the Force to pin him there, waiting for an answer to his question, watching as the expression in his captive's pained eyes turned from astonishment to anger to calculation.
-The swarm war 

YVH Cilghal wrote:@LadyKulvax no, they aren’t. But a force push, or force grip, from a Luke who is willing to go all out should be more than enough to take down Malgus. The only reason Luke didn’t one-shot people like UnuThul was because of his fear of abusing his power. But in this thread, it doesn’t apply. 
He can just do this, but he doesn’t give Malgus the option of surrendering: 

The Master sighed and shook his head. "What am I going to do with you, Raynar Thul?" he asked. "You learn nothing from your mistakes."
Luke deactivated his lightsaber and picked Raynar up by the collar and slammed him against the wall. He used the Force to pin him there, waiting for an answer to his question, watching as the expression in his captive's pained eyes turned from astonishment to anger to calculation.
-The swarm war 

It’s equally as effective as what Valkorion can do, if not more.

LadyKulvax wrote:That's exactly what we had last time and that worked a treat with the PT spammers. This absolutely should not be debated on the basis of vote-spamming.

dark_globe wrote:

DarthAnt66 wrote:

dark_globe wrote:GM luke
although his morals may not allow him to one shot malgus right away .
so if we are voting who would kill him faster than  prime sidious .

Note the stipulations hold that "while everyone will fight in-character, they will be aiming to kill Malgus as quickly and efficiently as possible with nothing held back."

well there is a bit of a cotradiction than because luke fighting "in-character"
would not go for insta kill right away because of his jedi morals .
i´m sticking with prime sidious : this dude has no problem to blitz or insta kill his opponents if he is 100% serious and he has zero morals unlike luke .

Apocalypse wrote:But on the near side of the stack-head, Jaina was done. She was on her knees, swaying in exhaustion and dangerously close to falling unconscious. Luke used the Force to pull her a safe distance away from the pit's edge, then turned to find his own trouble almost on him. With the first rank of Sith only two steps from the other side of the stack-head, he tossed his blaster behind him and extended a hand, grabbing four Sith ankles in a crushing Force grasp. He pulled them toward the pit.

Three of the Sith found themselves suddenly falling into the stack-head. They screamed and twisted, desperately searching for something they could grab-then plummeted out of sight. The fourth Sith managed to Force hurl himself backward and land on his side of the pit. Before Luke could drag him forward, a glass parang left the scabbard hanging from the man's belt and came flying.

Luke redirected the parang with little more than a thought, but by then Korelei and another Keshiri were in the air over the stack-head, their lightsabers ignited and their eyes fixed on Luke. He lit his own weapon and sprang to his feet, at the same time hitting them both with a Force blast that sent the male Keshiri tumbling back across the pit.

Korelei did not even feel it. She merely swung her lightsaber down to block Luke's slash, then planted a stomp kick square in his chest and sent him sailing down the duct backward.

Luke came down five meters away, a crushing pain in his chest. He struggled to draw breath. Korelei was barely two paces away, her fingers already glowing blue with the Force lightning she was about to hurl. With neither the time nor the strength to leap up, Luke merely reached for her in the Force, then turned his lightsaber toward her midsection and pulled.

They came together in a collision that left Luke's head spinning and his bones aching. He knew his lightsaber had struck home because he smelled scorched flesh. The hilt was wobbling against his hand as Korelei struggled to free herself of the searing blade. He felt a palm press itself to his chest, so he brought his free hand up and grabbed her arm... too late. His entire body sizzled into the joint-crushing grip of a Force lightning strike.

Quorian debatist wrote:Rhea for example got her arm and leg cut off, and then got beheaded by him.

LadyKulvax wrote:Still not seeing any kind of genuine, convincing argument that beats literally making Malgus incapable of reacting in any way or form and insta-killing him.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ wrote:I will vote for Luke in this round, but does anyone have a specific calculus for why Luke is above somebody like Valkorion? Is there a feat Luke has performed or scaling Luke possesses that is outside of Valkorion's range?

KingofBlades wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:Still not seeing any kind of genuine, convincing argument that beats literally making Malgus incapable of reacting in any way or form and insta-killing him.

Putting Malgus in force stasis would be just as effective

LadyKulvax wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:Still not seeing any kind of genuine, convincing argument that beats literally making Malgus incapable of reacting in any way or form and insta-killing him.

Putting Malgus in force stasis would be just as effective

But that's not the same thing as stopping time.