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KingofBladesLevel Three
KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 7:18 am
Since most people on this forum seem to believe KF Vader is > or at least = RotS Sidious, I've decided to throw a more powerful version of Sidious at KF Vader to get a gauge for his limits.
LOTL
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 7:24 am
Like, Kfv is at best equal to Sidious in Revenge of the Sith
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 7:31 am
LOTL wrote:Like, Kfv is at best equal to Sidious in Revenge of the Sith
Yes but from what I've seen many believe he's stronger. Scrolling through the old forums on KMC I've found polls from last year putting KF Vader as high as the 3rd most poweful force user ever. So I'm simply trying to see how the community thinks he'd fare against a superior version of Sidious. Personally I'd back RotJ Sidious but IDK how difficult it would be for him to win. Hence the thread being made to form a clearer picture on the matter.
NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 7:43 am
Sids roasts and toasts. KF Vader is around equal to ROTS Sids, his ROTJ incarnation is a different beast entirely.
- GuestGuest
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 7:48 am
KF Vader=ROTS Sidious in Force Power. He's only held above him by some because of superior saber skill which won't help him here due to the tremendous power disparity. Sidious wins and it isn't close.
- LOTL
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 8:46 am
Sidious is confirmed to have Yoda and Mace Windu level skill in ROTJ, I myself gave the quote to Az
Yeah no, Kfv is toast even in a lightsaber battle
Yeah no, Kfv is toast even in a lightsaber battle
Trayus Marauder
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 9:53 am
Sidious takes the win. KFV=RotS Sidious at most
Master AzrongerModerator
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 2:14 pm
By statements, the Emperor is the most powerful Sith Lord in history. By feats, he tanked full potential Galen Marek's suicide blast. I don't see an argument for Vader here.
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 3:30 pm
It seems kinda illogical to me to assume that the emperor tanked the full power of the blast if Galen really did go full potential mode. If Galen has a higher potential than Sidious, then him going full potential oneness should have killed Sidious. Instead Sidious was more or less unscathed by the attack. So either Galen's potential isn't all that or Sidious didn't tank the entirety of full potential Galen's attack.Azronger wrote:By statements, the Emperor is the most powerful Sith Lord in history. By feats, he tanked full potential Galen Marek's suicide blast. I don't see an argument for Vader here.
- Master AzrongerModerator
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 3:59 pm
KingofBlades wrote:It seems kinda illogical to me to assume that the emperor tanked the full power of the blast if Galen really did go full potential mode. If Galen has a higher potential than Sidious, then him going full potential oneness should have killed Sidious. Instead Sidious was more or less unscathed by the attack. So either Galen's potential isn't all that or Sidious didn't tank the entirety of full potential Galen's attack.Azronger wrote:By statements, the Emperor is the most powerful Sith Lord in history. By feats, he tanked full potential Galen Marek's suicide blast. I don't see an argument for Vader here.
Sidious went beyond his biological Force potential as early as TPM. Over time he became more energy than flesh and learned to harness power beyond his midi-chlorians. I think that's how he tanked the blast despite Marek's greater conventional Force potential.
- KingofBladesLevel Three
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 21st 2019, 5:39 pm
@Azronger Galen Marek is said to have enough force potential to become the most powerful force user ever. Meaning Full potential Galen should be above TFU Sidious's unnatural level of power.
The Fallen WarriorLevel Four
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 22nd 2019, 12:43 am
This guy Galen Marek caps out at around Shadow guard level, definitely going to beat sheev 
- The Fallen WarriorLevel Four
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 22nd 2019, 1:23 am
Yes so what? Vader suxPraxis wrote:
Fodder tier character beneath the shadow guard
- Master AzrongerModerator
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 22nd 2019, 3:30 am
KingofBlades wrote:@Azronger Galen Marek is said to have enough force potential to become the most powerful force user ever. Meaning Full potential Galen should be above TFU Sidious's unnatural level of power.
By Sam Witwer, who's not an authority on the lore. Full potential Marek evidently isn't above TFU Palpatine from what we see on-screen.
MacialRecognition
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 26th 2019, 4:37 pm
cringeKingofBlades wrote:@Azronger Galen Marek is said to have enough force potential to become the most powerful force user ever. Meaning Full potential Galen should be above TFU Sidious's unnatural level of power.
- NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: KF Vader vs RotJ Sidious
July 28th 2019, 6:11 am
DC77 wrote:Sids roasts and toasts. KF Vader is around equal to ROTS Sids, his ROTJ incarnation is a different beast entirely.
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