Vader V Revan

ILS wrote:

ArkhamAsylum3 wrote:@ILS

Of course, neither of them are going to drain a planet mid-battle but the fact is it's a feat exponentially better than anything Vader's accomplished especially when you consider the fact that Vitiate did it while heavily weakened.

I don't see how you can feasibly quantify the feat and justify oneshotting Vader. We don't know how it was accomplished for one. We also don't know how useful the technique itself (the death wave) is in combat versus how it affects the environment.

We know different techniques produce different effects (TK will always cause far, far more environmental destruction than Force Lightning), but that doesn't always tell us their utility in a fight versus a Force wielder ( we know that lightning can cripple someone and cause their body to spasm uncontrollably in ways blunt TK cannot even if coming from the same fighter).

My point is twofold: not only am I willing to bet that Vader's Force defences are most potent than anything that was destroyed in that death wave (and probably plenty of the stuff that survived it, and that's even if the deathwave is able to be used in combat [we don't know how it was summoned]), but I'm also willing to bet that if SWTOR Vitiate or Revan took their same power and used something more along the lines of telekinesis or lightning, they would not "oneshot" Vader through his prepared defences. At least, I don't see any reason to believe they can, and am not privy to a feat where they've oneshotted a Vader level opponent.

• The Hero of Tython: Repeatedly referred to as the most powerful jedi in the order even as of the end of Act 1, putting him beyond the likes of Satele Shan, Barsen'thor, Gnost Dural, etc. I discuss more on this more indepth on my Power of HoT Blog. Suffice it to say, the HoT is ludicrously powerful even by the end of Act 2.
  
• Tol Braga: Shown to be the 2nd most powerful member of the strike team based on their performances against the Emperor, fought a Dark Council member for days and came out victorious, and was able to push end of Act 3 HoT after being given an (unquantifiable) amp from the Emperor.
  
• Warren Sedoru: Stated to be "the greatest soldier in the order in his day," a role that fell upon the Hero of Tython at the start of Act 2 according to Tol Braga, which is pretty damn impressive given the likes of Satele Shan, Jaric Kaedan, Syo Bakarn, etc and their exploits.
  
• Leeha Narezz: Doesn't really have much going for her other than being stated to be "the most powerful and resolute jedi" in the galaxy alongside the rest of the strike team.

DC77 wrote:Vader as of ROTJ.

Revan as of SOR.

Az Vader wank is disabled.

Who wins out of these two titans?

Azronger wrote:

DC77 wrote:Vader as of ROTJ.

Revan as of SOR.

Az Vader wank is disabled.

Who wins out of these two titans?

So basically, you're completely erasing feats and accolades for Vader to artificially engineer Revan's victory here? Why even make this thread if you're going to intentionally make it unfair for the other side, especially when not everyone agrees with me on Vader's standing even when all of his material is enabled?

DC77 wrote:@Azronger The "Az Vader wank is disabled" s**t is for comedic purposes only kek.

LadyKulvax wrote:Shadow Revan >> Reborn Revan >> Novel Revan > Meetra Surik > Malachor!Traya > Darth Traya > Dantooine!Traya >> Zez-Kai Ell, Vrook Lamar, Kavar & Lonna Vash >> Lucien Draay < Darth Vader tbh.

Mithrandi wrote:SOR Revan>Darth Vader>Redeemed Revan/Darth Revan in my honest opinion.

DC77 wrote:Vader probably splits with Novel Revan or loses ngl. SOR Revan slaps.

IG (Exists) wrote:@KingofBlades: I wanted to see BoD and Lorenzo's stuff here tbh. LoH complaining about wank would be fun too.