Re: Darth Krayt runs the Vitiate gauntlet

November 15th 2020, 1:02 pm

@S_W_LeGenD
Having a lot of followers isn't a good reason for being more powerful than Sadow and Ludo Kressh.
I never said he's just another Sith. Horak Mul is also weaker than Sadow and Ludo Kressh yet he's still powerful enough to cause ships to crash.

November 15th 2020, 1:04 pm

@Vaelias:

Was mostly joking if you didn’t get that lol. Though I don’t think Krayt is particulary good so if you mind explaining why he’s good then do it.

November 15th 2020, 1:23 pm

Seturna wrote:@Vaelias:

Was mostly joking if you didn’t get that lol. Though I don’t think Krayt is particulary good so if you mind explaining why he’s good then do it.

Ok well Asharad Hett has proven to be powerful enough to contend with post ROTS Kenobi who is more powerful than ROTS Kenobi in the force bit a little out of practice with a lightsaber, Hett even landed a few hits so we can assume he’s below but at least somewhere near to Obiwan, I’d put him Somewhat on par with late clone wars Kenobi

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Then by the time he becomes Krayt he’s grown immensely especially having been in stasis for YEARS, he’s then powerful enough to impress GM Luke and harm Abeloth, he learns from the ancient masters so by this point he’s undoubtably likely pretty far above ROTS Kenobi, who managed to fight equally with a hindered KFV who is the most powerful sith of all time, then he has his Rebirth where his power ‘redoubles’ by this point he is undoubtably above Vader who is equal to ROTS Sidious who is the most powerful sith of all time, so Krayt at this point is more powerful than ROTS Sidious who is superior to every Sith iteration of Vitiate meaning that Krayt also is too, being more powerful than Sheev, Krayt beats every iteration of Vitiate bar Valkorian who he still gives a good fight to, and could actually get the upper hand

November 16th 2020, 9:47 am

Vaelias wrote:

Seturna wrote:@Vaelias:

Was mostly joking if you didn’t get that lol. Though I don’t think Krayt is particulary good so if you mind explaining why he’s good then do it.

Ok well Asharad Hett has proven to be powerful enough to contend with post ROTS Kenobi who is more powerful than ROTS Kenobi in the force bit a little out of practice with a lightsaber, Hett even landed a few hits so we can assume he’s below but at least somewhere near to Obiwan, I’d put him Somewhat on par with late clone wars Kenobi

Then by the time he becomes Krayt he’s grown immensely especially having been in stasis for YEARS, he’s then powerful enough to impress GM Luke and harm Abeloth, he learns from the ancient masters so by this point he’s undoubtably likely pretty far above ROTS Kenobi, who managed to fight equally with a hindered KFV who is the most powerful sith of all time, then he has his Rebirth where his power ‘redoubles’ by this point he is undoubtably above Vader who is equal to ROTS Sidious who is the most powerful sith of all time, so Krayt at this point is more powerful than ROTS Sidious who is superior to every Sith iteration of Vitiate meaning that Krayt also is too, being more powerful than Sheev, Krayt beats every iteration of Vitiate bar Valkorian who he still gives a good fight to, and could actually get the upper hand

Given the scale and breath of powers Vitiate have demonstrated up to the time of events in Revan, he was above Exar Kun who in turn is compared to Palpatine in some sources and even Luke Skywalker was convinced in this regard.

Vitiate was on the verge of transformation as of the Revan:

The Emperor was no longer a member of the Sith species; his power and immortality had transformed him into a being unique in the galaxy. When he spoke of life and death, it had far deeper meaning than the mere physical existence of the lesser beings that served him. - Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

When the VOICES emerged, Vitiate had transcended the Sith and become an entity (Valkorion); The Sith Emperor was no longer an actual living being now but a mere mask and the entity's powers were split across VOICES it had created and upheld at the same time but continued to grow throughout. Valkorion of the SWTOR is the most powerful Force-user ever or absolutely TOP TIER of the mythos - above the playing field of the Jedi and Sith. This is the impression BioWare have created by now.

Valkorion cannot be substantially stronger than Exar Kun and inferior to Palpatine at the same time - exceedingly convoluted take this is.

January 26th 2021, 11:10 pm

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