Jerec and Sedriss vs Maul and Savage Opress

[Jerec] His embrace of the Force's dark side gives him powers that rival Vader's.

Perhaps the strongest disciple of Palpatine after Darth Vader, Executor Sedriss remained loyal to the Emperor

Seturna wrote:Why would Savage be the weaklink?

Vaelias wrote:

Seturna wrote:Why would Savage be the weaklink?

Cos Sedriss and Jerec are Vader level, And Maul has stomped Savage

BreakofDawn wrote:Team 2, probably. Jerec is only "Vader level" in one hyperbolic "powers" quote that can refer to anything from knowledge to mastery to skill to the forces under his command loyal to him and him alone.

HeartoftheForce wrote:Katarn is below Mars who is “no threat” to Vader.

None would be trained sufficiently to be a threat to Darth Bane's insistence that there only be two Sith, nor would they be a threat to Darth Sidious or his apprentice Darth Vader. The most powerful of these agents were 'only' Sith adepts but would appear to be almost as dark Jedi - the likes of Asajj Ventress, Mara Jade or Inquisitor Valin (in fact a fallen Jedi). The lesser agents were reduced to still-deadly faceless minions. Amongst their ranks were the Shadow Guard.

-Starships and Vehicles Collection #63

Vaelias wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:Team 2, probably. Jerec is only "Vader level" in one hyperbolic "powers" quote that can refer to anything from knowledge to mastery to skill to the forces under his command loyal to him and him alone.

Well he was evenly matched with Katarn who could be considered Vader level if not higher

HeartoftheForce wrote:Mara. Freaking autocorrect. 

None would be trained sufficiently to be a threat to Darth Bane's insistence that there only be two Sith, nor would they be a threat to Darth Sidious or his apprentice Darth Vader. The most powerful of these agents were 'only' Sith adepts but would appear to be almost as dark Jedi - the likes of Asajj Ventress, Mara Jade or Inquisitor Valin (in fact a fallen Jedi). The lesser agents were reduced to still-deadly faceless minions. Amongst their ranks were the Shadow Guard.

-Starships and Vehicles Collection #63

Mara was no threat to Vader and yet when she was with Kyle on Dromuund Kaas shortly after the first game he is instantly seduced by the planet while Mara resists. Then Mara defeats the DS empowered Katarn. 

BreakofDawn wrote:

Vaelias wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:Team 2, probably. Jerec is only "Vader level" in one hyperbolic "powers" quote that can refer to anything from knowledge to mastery to skill to the forces under his command loyal to him and him alone.

Well he was evenly matched with Katarn who could be considered Vader level if not higher

Katarn is below Mara who in turn is vastly below Vader at any point in her life.

Vaelias wrote:Hahahah tell me about it

Thanks for the quote
If I’m not mistaken that’s pretty far before his prime, keep in mind he kept growing even after Maras death so it’s very likely he surpassed her.

HeartoftheForce wrote:Mara. Freaking autocorrect. 

None would be trained sufficiently to be a threat to Darth Bane's insistence that there only be two Sith, nor would they be a threat to Darth Sidious or his apprentice Darth Vader. The most powerful of these agents were 'only' Sith adepts but would appear to be almost as dark Jedi - the likes of Asajj Ventress, Mara Jade or Inquisitor Valin (in fact a fallen Jedi). The lesser agents were reduced to still-deadly faceless minions. Amongst their ranks were the Shadow Guard.

-Starships and Vehicles Collection #63

Mara was no threat to Vader and yet when she was with Kyle on Dromuund Kaas shortly after the first game he is instantly seduced by the planet while Mara resists. Then Mara defeats the DS empowered Katarn. 

DarthAnt66 wrote:Team 2. Jerec's with Vader, but Vader's weaker than Maul or Opress. Sedriss is below them all.

HeartoftheForce wrote:We’ve discussed this before. The 80% quote does not mean Vader is close to Sids at all.

George Lucas wrote: The core of all this thing is [that] the Emperor is the master and Vader is the apprentice,” Lucas would explain. “He knows that if he gets into a lazer fight with the Emperor, he won’t win. He knows his son can’t win. Neither one of them can beat the Emperor. Together they might. In the first sequel he reveals that when he says, ‘Together we can rule the universe.’ That’s still his plot in Jedi. It’s just that his son has said, ‘No, I’m not going to do that.’ So that’s a bit of a problem. “Vader also knows that the Emperor is toying with Luke. He has been told by the Emperor, ‘When he starts to strike me, you’re going to have to take him out.’ If Vader doesn’t block Luke’s lazer sword, the Emperor could just raise his hand and that would be the end of it.