Knightfall Vader Questions

1- Why would is Mustafar Vader considered weaker than KF Vader? Isn't Mustafar Vader after KF Vader and so he would be more immersed in the dark side? Was it his mental condition that rendered his power?

2- If KF Vader was able to decimate Dooku in seconds, wouldn't that put him above Yoda who was not able to do the same and matched evenly with Dooku in that time frame? I think it's also stated that Yoda and Dooku are equals in Force power.

3- Would KF Vader be able to defeat ROTS Sidious?

4- Who is considered a tier 9 and how would the list go? (from lowest to highest)

5- Is KF Vader more skilled as a duelist (combined with his rage hits) than Yoda?

6- How mentally stable was KF Vader relatively speaking and why did his condition worsen later on?

ROTS Yoda is matching Sidious, who is more powerful than KF Vader per a majority of sources.

Thanks for the answers everyone.

I wrote:Palpatine, Yoda, and KF Vader are all tier 9s, and I'd rank them in that order.

So what I am getting here is that there is a debate between who is more powerful between Knightfall Vader or Mustafar Vader with some claiming Knightfall was in a better mental condition and so more powerful combatively than Mustafar Vader.

But if there are sources stating that Yoda is more powerful than Knightfall Vader and Mustafar is known to be on par with Yoda/Sidious, then wouldn't this definitely put Mustafar Vader over Knightfall?

Also why would Mustafar Vader be weaker due to his fear and rage?

These feelings enhance the dark side in someone and not render it. So he should be even more powerful than Knightfall Vader if these feelings are greater than before.

HK-47 wrote:Generally, this was done by broadcasting strong emotions while thinking about something else. It was a curious technique, but it seemed to be effective in blinding Jedi. Whether guilt, lust, fear - they act as mental interference, making finding the true intentions of the broadcasting meatbag difficult. Obviously, a Force Sensitive broadcasting such emotions puts themselves at risk of not using the Force "properly," since to use it seems to require an inner calm that most meatbags do not possess. As much as the Jedi could not use such a technique, the Sith Lords cannot use it for much the same reasons - such passions as guilt, lust, and fear are rarely strengths to the Sith code.

Also I am guessing the only reason Obi Wan wasn't decimated (like Dooku) by Mustafar Vader is because Obi Wan knew Anakin and how he fights really well(even instinctively). So he was able to hold his own through this.

As for Yoda not being able to decimate Dooku in AOTC, like Vader did, wasn't Yoda pretty much just as powerful between AOTC and ROTS?

Darth Nihilus wrote:So I am sort of new to this Era and don't have much knowledge on this but I have been interested in KF Vader recently and have some questions. Also any other information (even if irrelevant) would be nice.

1- Why would is Mustafar Vader considered weaker than KF Vader? Isn't Mustafar Vader after KF Vader and so he would be more immersed in the dark side? Was it his mental condition that rendered his power?

his mental condition was not the proper during his fight with kenobi although its confirmed by lucas that he is= rots sidious by this point.

2- If KF Vader was able to decimate Dooku in seconds, wouldn't that put him above Yoda who was not able to do the same and matched evenly with Dooku in that time frame? I think it's also stated that Yoda and Dooku are equals in Force power.

very likely but ofc there is some other sources that state yoda was gaining the upper hand against dooku during his duel and that the only chance of survival was escape.

3- Would KF Vader be able to defeat ROTS Sidious?

honestly i doubt it kfv is the most formidable version of vader but it cant compare to a guy who have more mastery,control of his power and skill.

4- Who is considered a tier 9 and how would the list go? (from lowest to highest)

yoda,mace windu,kfv and sidious are the only tier 9 

5- Is KF Vader more skilled as a duelist (combined with his rage hits) than Yoda?
gillard confirmed he have least faults in his style of fightning compared to the other tier nines so thats your answer 



6- How mentally stable was KF Vader relatively speaking and why did his condition worsen later on?

during operation knightfall its the time vader takes his first steps on the dark side of the force he feel not remorse of his actions until mustafar.

1. Mustafar Vader is just as, if not more powerful than Knightfall Vader per Lucas and other sources.

Darth Nihilus wrote:As for Yoda not being able to decimate Dooku in AOTC, like Vader did, wasn't Yoda pretty much just as powerful between AOTC and ROTS?