RoS Ren VS Knightfall Vader

-CANON ONLY- 


R1: weapons only with aug 
R2: Force Only 
R3: All out 


Location: death star ruins. 


Bonus: duo unites to fight Canon prime Luke skywalker.



If ren is losing by any margin > slim, add Ros Rey

R1 - Anakin decimates
R2 - Either way, Kylo seems more impressive however
R3 - Anakin decimates

HellfireUnit wrote:R1 - Anakin decimates
R2 - Either way, Kylo seems more impressive however
R3 - Anakin decimates

Adding rey do anything?

Vader stomps

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:R1 - Anakin decimates
R2 - Either way, Kylo seems more impressive however
R3 - Anakin decimates

Adding rey do anything?

Rey solos both

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Anakin in all three to be honest. Ren has done nothing to suggest he is close to RotS Palps. And, as we know, KFV ~ Palps. As for the bonus: it depends. If you think, in canon, RotJ Vader was giving his all against his son - Luke. If you think he wasn't - Anakin solos.

R1: Anakin curbstomps
R2: Anakin curbstomps
R3: Anakin curbstomps

Bonus: Probably Luke. Did Luke really fuck Snoke's face up or Snoke's face was already fucked up?

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

I mean, the knights of ren according to the Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition states that the KOR as without equal in terms of martial prowess and combat in the new republic,  so for him to try and fight their whole team alone without his weapon would obviously be a bit of a struggle

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Where is aug gaps actively demonstrated in canon?? The only instance I can personally think of is Sids vs strike team, and the gap there is massive. 


We see people without any augmentation put up stellar fights against notable force users, being Viszla, bo katan, embo, bane, the list foes on and on. Canon doesn't seem to focus on augmented force abilities as much as they do technical skill gaps and offensive/ defensive force powers

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Where is aug gaps actively demonstrated in canon?? The only instance I can personally think of is Sids vs strike team, and the gap there is massive. 


We see people without any augmentation put up stellar fights against notable force users, being Viszla, bo katan, embo, bane, the list foes on and on. Canon doesn't seem to focus on augmented force abilities as much as they do technical skill gaps and offensive/ defensive force powers

I never mentioned aug

Revenge of the Quoting Wall of Text

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Where is aug gaps actively demonstrated in canon?? The only instance I can personally think of is Sids vs strike team, and the gap there is massive. 


We see people without any augmentation put up stellar fights against notable force users, being Viszla, bo katan, embo, bane, the list foes on and on. Canon doesn't seem to focus on augmented force abilities as much as they do technical skill gaps and offensive/ defensive force powers

I never mentioned aug

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I mean, unless you are implying he could just TK the knights, (which he did in the beginning to some) i fail to see what youre even trying to make for a point here. Is it that the Knights of Ren ( Unknown, accoladed to be basically inquisitor level, but fighting as a team with unique weaponry and different styles with apparently Unparalleled Martial prowess) are fodder? Isnt our only acknowledgement of their power in any form come from Luke, who he himself is only noting them to be untrained? 0.o 


Im lost is all on what youre trying to say. this just seems like arguing in a circle

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Where is aug gaps actively demonstrated in canon?? The only instance I can personally think of is Sids vs strike team, and the gap there is massive. 


We see people without any augmentation put up stellar fights against notable force users, being Viszla, bo katan, embo, bane, the list foes on and on. Canon doesn't seem to focus on augmented force abilities as much as they do technical skill gaps and offensive/ defensive force powers

I never mentioned aug

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I mean, unless you are implying he could just TK the knights, (which he did in the beginning to some) i fail to see what youre even trying to make for a point here. Is it that the Knights of Ren ( Unknown, accoladed to be basically inquisitor level, but fighting as a team with unique weaponry and different styles with apparently Unparalleled Martial prowess) are fodder? Isnt our only acknowledgement of their power in any form come from Luke, who he himself is only noting them to be untrained? 0.o 


Im lost is all on what youre trying to say. this just seems like arguing in a circle

Yes that it what I'm saying. It's funny how Kylo can't do anything without his lightsaber in a fight when a child can

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:

Jedi_Jesus wrote:

Sith Archivist wrote:Vader stomps

But why

Kylo was getting stomped by the knights of ren without his saber. He's trash tier.

I'm still confused as to why you think that's the reason he's trash tier

Are the knights of ren above Dooku then?

Is dr. Aphra > Vader?

Let's not change the subject.
Now if Kylo without his saber is sub knights of ren then in what way does he hold a candle against KF Vader?

Because once he gets it he fodderizes them?

Relying too much on your saber isn’t a good trait

Yeah but using bad H2H isn't a save all argument for being a bad combatant

You don’t have to be a good H2H combatant to at least use your force abilities to put up somewhat of a fight.

Where is aug gaps actively demonstrated in canon?? The only instance I can personally think of is Sids vs strike team, and the gap there is massive. 


We see people without any augmentation put up stellar fights against notable force users, being Viszla, bo katan, embo, bane, the list foes on and on. Canon doesn't seem to focus on augmented force abilities as much as they do technical skill gaps and offensive/ defensive force powers

I never mentioned aug

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I mean, unless you are implying he could just TK the knights, (which he did in the beginning to some) i fail to see what youre even trying to make for a point here. Is it that the Knights of Ren ( Unknown, accoladed to be basically inquisitor level, but fighting as a team with unique weaponry and different styles with apparently Unparalleled Martial prowess) are fodder? Isnt our only acknowledgement of their power in any form come from Luke, who he himself is only noting them to be untrained? 0.o 


Im lost is all on what youre trying to say. this just seems like arguing in a circle

Yes that it what I'm saying. It's funny how Kylo can't do anything without his lightsaber in a fight when a child can

bold of you to bring in a character that could solo SW Canon on her own 

The quoting battle