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- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Savage Opress vs TPM Yoda
February 20th 2020, 11:54 am
The battle rages on! The Jedi and light side of the Force clash against the Sith and the dark side of the Force in this awesome battlepack. Yoda and Anakin face the dark fury of Asajj Ventress, while Obi-Wan confronts the menacing General Grievous. The heroic Jedi are all expert fighters who possess supreme skill with their lightsabers, but their foes have also been trained in lightsaber combat, making them formidable opponents who will not be easily defeated. Yoda, Anakin, and Obi-Wan will be tested to their limit by these two deadly enemies. Who will win? The fate of the galaxy is in your hands!
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Additionally, we know that Ventress pushed Mace to need all his skills the first time they met.
Will refer back to an earlier post I made:
Why do people keep pointing to an emotionally distraught Mace "using all of his skills" to beat her? That proves absolutely nothing beyond that he wasn't holding back by any noticeable margin. He still pretty quickly overwhelmed her and she herself said she couldn't beat him. He's pretty clearly got her quite heavily outclassed. Take her last sentence how you will, but the fact that she believes only one option is open to her (flee) suggests that Mace is solidly out of her league to the point where killing him is out of the question.
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And the second time, he was sweating in bladelocks with her while she was smiling and seemed to be at ease, indicating she had grown more powerful than him. Even if not, she clearly wasn't far off him
Or she's taunting him. Sidious grinned in blade locks with Yoda.
Even if not, she clearly wasn't far off him. And as you know, Windu has quotes that put him as a peer of TPM Yoda (and AotC Yoda, as you have claimed), occasionally he was the best dueling in the Order in the Clone Wars, so this is another indicator of Ventress being in the ballpark of early iterations of Yoda.
Not really. For one, we don't see most of the battle so we have no idea what happened, and for another it's inconsistent with other fights. For example, Ventress being able to hold her own against TCW Mace despite TCW Mace then having a brief yet evenly matched duel with Dooku:
Yet Ventress around the same time as the Coruscant fight with two blades was being matched by Plo Koon with a broken arm:
Part of this fight also took place off panel.
So Ventress ~ TCW Plo Koon w/ a broken arm ~ BoTCW Mace ~ Yoda.
- The LostLevel Five
Re: Savage Opress vs TPM Yoda
February 20th 2020, 11:55 am
Makes sense that Plo and Dooku are similar seeing as Savage kicked both their asses in similar fashion
- DarthAnt66Moderator
Re: Savage Opress vs TPM Yoda
February 20th 2020, 2:52 pm
@Azronger:
So, the quote you're using says Ventress alone would push Anakin PLUS Yoda to their limits? Obviously not, considering that specific Anakin (Yavin IV OCW Anakin) had already defeated that specific Ventress (OCW / pre-TCW Republic comics Ventress). Adding in Yoda would, by necessity, make it far easier unless he's a non-factor.
There's the contradiction for you, lol.
Windu doesn't really have any quotes putting him with TPM Yoda. They're all taken out-of-context. He has far more affirming inferiority to Yoda. The "all his powers" quote is in-universe. Your later TCW Ventress stuff is irrelevant to any of this.
So, the quote you're using says Ventress alone would push Anakin PLUS Yoda to their limits? Obviously not, considering that specific Anakin (Yavin IV OCW Anakin) had already defeated that specific Ventress (OCW / pre-TCW Republic comics Ventress). Adding in Yoda would, by necessity, make it far easier unless he's a non-factor.
There's the contradiction for you, lol.
Windu doesn't really have any quotes putting him with TPM Yoda. They're all taken out-of-context. He has far more affirming inferiority to Yoda. The "all his powers" quote is in-universe. Your later TCW Ventress stuff is irrelevant to any of this.
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