- The Witness
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 7:54 am
Love to know why this incarnation of Kenobi is "stomping".
Who has AOTC Kenobi ever stomped?
Who has AOTC Kenobi ever stomped?
- MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 10:56 am
Kenobi has far better feats, he pressured Dooku a bit, while Kota was ragdolled by an opponent in the same tier as Dooku in force power.
- GuestGuest
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 12:23 pm
AOTC Kenobi has better feats than being ragdolled by TFU Vader.
- MPModerator | Champion of Darkness
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 1:50 pm
mastercilghal wrote:Kenobi has far better feats, he pressured Dooku a bit, while Kota was ragdolled by an opponent in the same tier as Dooku in force power.
Dooku was capable of ragdolling Kenobi though....
- SithSauceLevel One
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 2:29 pm
Kota contending with early game Marek should be enough to put him above AOTC Kenobi
- MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 2:55 pm
Not really, Kenobi simply didn’t have the time to mount a force shield. It was noted in the junior novel. In fact, Obi wan pressured Dooku a bit in the AOTC novelization, while exhausted.Meatpants wrote:mastercilghal wrote:Kenobi has far better feats, he pressured Dooku a bit, while Kota was ragdolled by an opponent in the same tier as Dooku in force power.
Dooku was capable of ragdolling Kenobi though....
- Haggis
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 4:17 pm
Kenobi would win, but I question it being an outright stomp.
- GuestGuest
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 14th 2019, 5:50 pm
@mastercilghal
The fact that Kenobi couldn't raise a Force Shield in time is completely irrelevant. If Dooku is so fast and so skilled that he can simply TK stomp Kenobi while engaging Anakin then he will do so in every hypothetical matchup between the two making any arguments that Kenobi can compete with Dooku bunk. AOTC doesn't contradict this. Kenobi after summoning all of his strength only manages to briefly put Dooku on the back foot while the latter was toying with him. That said though I agree that Kenobi still wins this.
Not really, Kenobi simply didn’t have the time to mount a force shield. It was noted in the junior novel. In fact, Obi wan pressured Dooku a bit in the AOTC novelization, while exhausted.
The fact that Kenobi couldn't raise a Force Shield in time is completely irrelevant. If Dooku is so fast and so skilled that he can simply TK stomp Kenobi while engaging Anakin then he will do so in every hypothetical matchup between the two making any arguments that Kenobi can compete with Dooku bunk. AOTC doesn't contradict this. Kenobi after summoning all of his strength only manages to briefly put Dooku on the back foot while the latter was toying with him. That said though I agree that Kenobi still wins this.
- O-Siri
Re: AOTC Obi Wan vs Rahm Kota
May 15th 2019, 1:00 am
AotC Kenobi drove back a caught offguard Dooku who had been toying with him the whole time.
According to the script Dooku increased the tempo of his attack(which proves he wasn't going all out eariler) and Kenobi is pushed to the limits to defend himself:
Going by the novelization Dooku wasn't worried until Anakin showcases his speed, further proof Kenobi driving Dooku back wasn't a big deal:
If that wasn't enough the same novel reveals Dooku reserved his best performance for Yoda.
According to the script Dooku increased the tempo of his attack(which proves he wasn't going all out eariler) and Kenobi is pushed to the limits to defend himself:
- Spoiler:
- OBI-WAN takes a deep breath, gets a fresh grip on his lightsaber and comes in again. For a moment, he drives COUNT DOOKU back. Then Dooku's superior skill begins to tell again, and he forces OBI-WAN to retreat.
COUNT DOOKU increases the tempo of his attack. OBI-WAN is pushed to the limit to defend himself. DOOKU presses. His lightsaber flashes.
Going by the novelization Dooku wasn't worried until Anakin showcases his speed, further proof Kenobi driving Dooku back wasn't a big deal:
- Spoiler:
- "I am a slow learner." Said Anakin coolly, and he came on, so suddenly, so powerfully, his green blade was whirling with such speed he was almost encased in green light. For the first time Dooku lost his confident smile, he had to work furiously to keep Anakin's blade at bay, dodging more than parrying."
If that wasn't enough the same novel reveals Dooku reserved his best performance for Yoda.
- Spoiler:
- "Dooku gave a crisp salute, igniting his own red blade, but then, formalities over, he leapt at Yoda, a sudden and devastating thrust.
But one that never got close to hitting. With hardly a movement, Yoda turned the blade aside.
Dooku went into a wild flurry then, the likes of which he had not shown against Obi-Wan or Anakin, raining blows at the diminutive Master. But Yoda didn't even seem to move. He didn't step back or to the side, yet his subtle dodges and precision parries kept Dooku's blade slashing and stabbing harmlessly wide."
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