Vaylin vs Exar Kun

Vaylin oneshots lol. She has raw power > Revan, who scales astronomically above Kun as of SoR.

Kun demonstratably scaling so far above KotOR Revan it isn't funny kinda cancelled that. Lel.

Kun has massive scaling off of spirit Sadow and he was able to genuinely tag SOR HoT.

Better yet, using some real arguments for once, he's literally more powerful than JA Master Luke and a lethal threat to Pre-ESB Sidious. Which Vaylin can't compete with.

Kun demonstratably scaling so far above KotOR Revan it isn't funny kinda cancelled that. Lel.

Kun has massive scaling off of spirit Sadow and he was able to genuinely tag SOR HoT.

Literally both of these apply to Vaylin. Hell, chained Vaylin (who's <<< her unchained counterpart) could dominate KOTFE Arcann level opponents in the Outlander, who's >>> SoR HoT and who in turn is arguably above Revan Reborn (who's >>> KOTOR Revan).

First, I'm not entirely convinced of SoR Hero > Reborn Revan. Regardless, Kun's scaling chains go like this:

Exar Kun > Marka Ragnos > Ancients rivalling Darth Nihilus >> Darth Traya >> Jedi Council >> DS Bastila Shan > Jedi Bastila Shan ~ Resisting Malak for a week.

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Exar Kun >> Sith Council >>> Ancient Threat > Empire & Republic's greatest champions (A.K.A the same as what Revan should've defeated at the Temple of Sacrifice bar his light side spirit's interference) >>> SoR Hero of Tython individually.

So scaling off of the Hero of Tython might not get Vaylin as far in this as you imagine.

First, assuming SoR HoT does scale off Revan Reborn:

Unchained Vaylin >>>>>> KOTET chained Vaylin > chapter 3 Outlander > KOTFE Arcann >>> mid-KOTFE Outlander > SoR HoT > act 3 HoT ~ Revan Reborn impresses me more than any of Kun's scaling, especially since Revan Reborn is much stronger than iterations like KOTOR, who can rival or even beat Nihilus and Traya.

Second, I'm about 99% certain the world bosses in SWTOR (like the Ancient Threat) are not canon. And no, Revan wouldn't have defeated that team at the Temple of Sacrifice.

Firstly, SoR HoT only scales off of Act 3 HoT who killed a Vitiate already near death. Revan Reborn faced Vitiate's full power. Whilst SWTOR Vitiate is stronger, his weakened state absolutely isn't and the growth of SWTOR Vitiate from his novel incarnation is massively mitigated by the fact he dispersed his powers by maintaining constant telepathic domination over the Dread Masters, gave portions of his power to his Children and even more intensive actions such as his eventual suppression of Vaylin and control over beings such as the First Son.

Arguing Act III HoT ~ Reborn Revan is going to need far more than just general relativity to Vitiate. Also, there's nothing stating Reborn Revan would defeat fully-powered Darth Nihilus. Meetra's beliefs are literally the only insinuation that this is true.

Secondly, World Bosses are absolutely canon and I provided a quote in the relevant thread from swtor.com acknowledging it and its lore specifically.

Who wins?

Vaylin ~> Arcann >> Revan Reborn >> KOTOR Revan >>> SF Malak >> Exar Kun

Vaylin has this.

EC making Q/A with himself.

Chained Vaylin isn't beating Exar Kun, Unchained Vaylin does far better.

Merged the threads