Galen and Vaylin vs Outlander and Revan

Syndiciate wrote:I'd go with team 1.

DC77 (Reborn) wrote:@Syndiciate You seem to have an opinion contrary to the public consensus. Mind articulating why you believe team 1 to be superior?

KingofBlades wrote:
Ragdolling Vader isn't impressive at this level and Marek didn't go "toe to toe" with Sidious he got stomped when Sidious fought for real in the DS ending

KingofBlades wrote:The novel shows Marek entering oneness when he faces sidious. So his showing against Sidious is nonapplicable to normal fights. And the DS ending while non canon from a continuity perspective is still canon in how it displays the power of characters

Galen enters oneness after the lightning clash, not before.

KingofBlades wrote:If Sidious can resist the attack from oneness Galen then he obviously wasn't going all out against normal Galen

KingofBlades wrote:No but this logic is questionable. If Marek is comparable to Sidious in his base state then he should've completely overwhelmed him once he enters oneness. 

KingofBlades wrote:And just because a blast is omnidirectional doesn't mean the energy in the blast is evenly distributed. The blast could easily be omnidirectional and still focus the majority of the power in a single direction

Syndiciate wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:No but this logic is questionable. If Marek is comparable to Sidious in his base state then he should've completely overwhelmed him once he enters oneness. 

Again, this point has already been addressed in the thread I linked.

KingofBlades wrote:And just because a blast is omnidirectional doesn't mean the energy in the blast is evenly distributed. The blast could easily be omnidirectional and still focus the majority of the power in a single direction

Not disputing this. But considering his primary concern would've been to prevent the stormtroopers from firing on Juno and the Rebels. He would reasonably be sending the majority of the energy towards THEM and not Sidious since they're the immediate threat to the people he's trying to save.

KingofBlades wrote:

Syndiciate wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:No but this logic is questionable. If Marek is comparable to Sidious in his base state then he should've completely overwhelmed him once he enters oneness. 

Again, this point has already been addressed in the thread I linked.

KingofBlades wrote:And just because a blast is omnidirectional doesn't mean the energy in the blast is evenly distributed. The blast could easily be omnidirectional and still focus the majority of the power in a single direction

Not disputing this. But considering his primary concern would've been to prevent the stormtroopers from firing on Juno and the Rebels. He would reasonably be sending the majority of the energy towards THEM and not Sidious since they're the immediate threat to the people he's trying to save.

You didn't address it at all in your thread. The thread cites Sidious being desperate and feeling pain to show parity between base Galen and Sidious. However this is illogical because if base Galen is comparable to Sidious then he would easily overwhelm him once he enters oneness. This specific point is not addressed in the post. 

You also say that Marek diverts most of his power to save the rebels. This is also illogical. The amount of energy needed to protect the rebels from a bunch of stormtoopers is less than insignificant to the energy needed to deal with Darth freaking Sidious.

"A squadron of stormtroopers ran into the room, led by a limping Darth Vader. They raised their blasters to gun down the Rebels as they fled up the Rogue Shadow's ramp. "No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials." - The Force Unleashed.