Meetra Surik vs Arcann

Seturna wrote:Arcann stomps.

HellfireUnit wrote:

Seturna wrote:Arcann stomps.

Bergmar wrote:You all think that Meetra is weaker, probably because your build in the kotor 2 is wrong

HellfireUnit wrote:
Yes, my build will most certainly be a factor when I fight with a guy from another game!

Bergmar wrote:Can anyone tell a reason why Arcann is more powerful than Meetra?

NotAA3 wrote:

Bergmar wrote:Can anyone tell a reason why Arcann is more powerful than Meetra?

Arcann >> KOTFE Chapter 8 Outlander > Act 3 Hero of Tython > SWTOR Voicitiate >> Novel Vitiate > Revan Reborn >> Darth Nyriss >> Meetra Surik.

It should be fair to note that Nyriss was also significantly amped by the Dark Side nexus of Dromund Kaas while Meetra would have been significantly hindered. So the gap between Nyriss and Meetra may be a lot smaller than what most people point it out to be.

Act 3 Hero of Tython > SWTOR Voicitiate

NotAA3 wrote:@Darth Nihilus

It should be fair to note that Nyriss was also significantly amped by the Dark Side nexus of Dromund Kaas while Meetra would have been significantly hindered. So the gap between Nyriss and Meetra may be a lot smaller than what most people point it out to be.

It doesn't impact the chain at all, tbh:

Act 3 Hero of Tython > SWTOR Voicitiate

This fight likewise took place on the very same nexus, only inside the Dark Temple - where the Dark Side energies would be most concentrated - and after the Hero fought through armies of enemies, "dissipating his energies saving the weak". Every gap up until this point in the chain is explicitly ignoring the nexus, for that reason.

Oh the chain would still be the same probably. I was just pointing out that Nyriss may not actually be that much stronger than Meetra considering the advantage she had.

Likewise, Act 3 Hero of Tython should be >> SWTOR Voicitiate (if you aren't considering amps) considering HOT would be hindered while SWTOR Voicitiate would be amped. It would just show the superiortiy of HOT in this case and not that the nexus was weak in itself.

NotAA3 wrote:@Darth Nihilus

Oh the chain would still be the same probably. I was just pointing out that Nyriss may not actually be that much stronger than Meetra considering the advantage she had.

I agree, but my chain wasn't factoring in nexus amps/weaknesses, because the nexus is irrelevant given that the person I'm scaling below Arcann scales above the other characters in the chain due to beating Voicitiate on that same nexus.

Likewise, Act 3 Hero of Tython should be >> SWTOR Voicitiate (if you aren't considering amps) considering HOT would be hindered while SWTOR Voicitiate would be amped. It would just show the superiortiy of HOT in this case and not that the nexus was weak in itself.

Yes, I'm not implying the nexus is weak, I'm just stating that it's totally irrelevant to the chain itself, so I decided to ignore it.

NotAA3 wrote:

Arcann >> KOTFE Chapter 8 Outlander > Act 3 Hero of Tython > SWTOR Voicitiate >> Novel Vitiate > Revan Reborn >> Darth Nyriss >> Meetra Surik.

Oh my God!!! Did you really think that Hero of Tython is more powerful than novel Vitiate?????

Vitiate is 50-90% of Valkorion!

Hero of Tython defeated him only beacause he had a special ability from the Emperor, some kind like Meetra against Nihilus.

Or as an option the Emperor was already dying at that time and no one knew about it, or something esle.

I am sure that there is some reasonable explanation for this. Experts will confirm.

I consider that Hero of Tython on that moment was around Satele level, not more.

NotAA3 wrote:Novel Scourge would be relevant in a fight against Novel Vitiate (per Revan)

Kindly do not use the Revan book as a reference, since the author failed to understand the complexity and power of the exile as depicted in Kotor 2. It is barely more than fan fiction.

Darth Zanos wrote:

NotAA3 wrote:Novel Scourge would be relevant in a fight against Novel Vitiate (per Revan)

Kindly do not use the Revan book as a reference, since the author failed to understand the complexity and power of the exile as depicted in Kotor 2. It is barely more than fan fiction.

NotAA3 wrote:I don't really care about your subjective opinion on The Exile's power level... the Revan novel is part of Legends continuity, and I will treat it as such - it's as valid as any other piece of C-Canon material.

HellfireUnit wrote:and yet it is canon to EU and was approved by our Lord and Saviour George Lucas / G-Canon thus being published. Ignore it as much as you want, it is a core part of the TOR storyline.