Darth Nyriss vs Darth Sidious (RotS)

Bergmar wrote:If Sidious is stronger than her, how do you explain that from her purple lightning she became ashes, while the Sidious lightning just mutilated him.

SnowxElf wrote:Sidious likely speed blitzes, he already has done so to better duelist

DarthAnt66 wrote:Revan’s nigh-instantly summoning the energies to match those that can ash Nyriss. There’s no reason why he can’t do that everytime, especially when he does it “easily.” As long as he does, he can ash Nyriss 100/100 times with his own Force lightning. Rey’s situation isn’t the same, and she’s using lightsabers to assist.

S_W_LeGenD wrote:

DarthAnt66 wrote:Revan’s nigh-instantly summoning the energies to match those that can ash Nyriss. There’s no reason why he can’t do that everytime, especially when he does it “easily.” As long as he does, he can ash Nyriss 100/100 times with his own Force lightning. Rey’s situation isn’t the same, and she’s using lightsabers to assist.

Revan did not destroy her with his energies, he turned her own energies back on her which did the job for him. Darth Nyriss was too focused on the others to realize that Revan was there and would do something.

If Revan can one-shot an opponent like that in every situation (or on a consistent basis), I wonder why he failed to do so to others who crossed his path? Yes, Revan would defeat a member of the Dark Council in single combat, comfortably at that, but there is no guarantee of one-shot in every situation. This is like assuming that Meetra Surik will loose to every DARTH of the Empire because she failed to handle Darth Nyriss. This is unrealistic take on things in my view. There would be Sith in the Empire who will surprise Revan as well even if few. These matters are not so cut and dry.

Lightsabers can and have flopped at times. It was Rey's time to shine. She was in da zone. The outcome could be different if Palpatine had attacked her with a Drain-type application. WE can only speculate now.

DarthAnt66 wrote:Palpatine atomizes Nyriss instantly. If Revan can “easily” generate the energies needed to match and surpass Nyriss’ barrier-shattering super-energies, so can Palpatine.

DarthAnt66 wrote:@S_W_Legend:

No, Nyriss' energies didn't "do the work for him." Revan had to first "gather his own energy" to nullify and absorb Nyriss' super-charged energies into himself in order to then deflect it back at Nyriss. Ergo, Revan can generate power equivalent to that which incinerates Nyriss--instantly and "easily." 

If they were to fight one-hundred times, why can't Revan just instantly and "easily" summon power equivalent to Nyriss' super-charged energies to turn her into goo every time? How is Nyriss defending herself against such an attack? We know her barrier can't handle the lightning, and the fact she choose her barrier over her lightsaber indicates her lightsaber wouldn't be effective either. This is consistent with Nyriss being "infinitely" weaker than Vitiate, too.

This all only wouldn't be the case it takes far-and-away more energy to unleash Force lightning than to absorb Force lightning, but we know "only the most powerful Jedi" can absorb Force lightning whereas every random Dark Jedi can unleash Force lightning, so clearly that's not true.

Revan's raw power in the Force bends Nyriss' Sith lightning back at her, utterly destroying the Sith Lord.

Taken from Star Wars: The Essential Reader's Companion

In the awkward position her right flank was exposed, and Nyriss brought her blade in to deliver a crippling cut. At the same time, Scourge lashed out with the Force, catching Nyriss flush in the center of her chest.

An ordinary foe would have been thrown clear across the room, but Nyriss instinctively threw up a Force barrier to protect herself, absorbing and redirecting the brunt of the impact. Even so, Scourge's attack knocked her off balance just enough to send her lightsaber wide of the mark, giving Meetra the opportunity she needed to scramble away to safety.

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan