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- TenebrousWay
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 25th 2020, 3:05 pm
In no particular order
Tier 1 - the 'heroic' characters whose roles can be even attributed to the Force itself
Luke Skywalker
Anakin Skywalker
The Outlander
Tier 2 - Iconic villains or guiding figures that an important impact on the development of the tier 1 characters
Darth Sidious
Valkorion
Yoda
Darth Vader (suit)
Darth Krayt
Mace Windu
Obi Wan Kenobi
Darth Plagueis
Revan
Exar Kun
Qui Gon Jinn
Tier 3 - Secondary villains and heroes with great impact in the storyline and the main characters
Count Dooku
Darth Malgus
Darth Maul
Darth Caedus
Darth Bane
Darth Malak
Nomi Sunrider
Ulic
Tier 4 - Acessory characters that helped to mold the story but aren't that important themselves
Ventress
B-Team
Darth Marr
Satele Shan
Darth Thanaton
Darth Zannah
Darth Tenebrous
Tier 1 - the 'heroic' characters whose roles can be even attributed to the Force itself
Luke Skywalker
Anakin Skywalker
The Outlander
Tier 2 - Iconic villains or guiding figures that an important impact on the development of the tier 1 characters
Darth Sidious
Valkorion
Yoda
Darth Vader (suit)
Darth Krayt
Mace Windu
Obi Wan Kenobi
Darth Plagueis
Revan
Exar Kun
Qui Gon Jinn
Tier 3 - Secondary villains and heroes with great impact in the storyline and the main characters
Count Dooku
Darth Malgus
Darth Maul
Darth Caedus
Darth Bane
Darth Malak
Nomi Sunrider
Ulic
Tier 4 - Acessory characters that helped to mold the story but aren't that important themselves
Ventress
B-Team
Darth Marr
Satele Shan
Darth Thanaton
Darth Zannah
Darth Tenebrous
- O-Siri
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 25th 2020, 4:47 pm
The main thing that always bothered me about the official standing is how easily Sidious dispatched the B-Team. I don’t really have a problem with Mace beating Sidious but Sidious dispatching the trio like fodder insinuates Mace could do the same which is just messed up.
In my perfect world the top 6 as of RotS Yoda, Sidious, Mace, Anakin, Dooku, and Kenobi would only be a little bit apart as duelists with any match up being a good competitive fight. No ragdoll tier gaps. Sidious wouldn’t be able to kill the B-Team
without deception; maybe catch them off guard with lightning or something.
In my perfect world the top 6 as of RotS Yoda, Sidious, Mace, Anakin, Dooku, and Kenobi would only be a little bit apart as duelists with any match up being a good competitive fight. No ragdoll tier gaps. Sidious wouldn’t be able to kill the B-Team
without deception; maybe catch them off guard with lightning or something.
- CuckedCurryLevel Four
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 25th 2020, 6:05 pm
He can’t blitz B-team without deception anyway—movie he uses a confusion haze, book he baits Tiin and Kolar into dropping their guards
- SithSauceLevel One
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 26th 2020, 9:57 am
@CuckedCurry Evidence that this was in the case in the movie depiction? Or did Kolar and Tinn use the incredible power of standing still with your lightsaber ignited and do nothing?CuckedCurry wrote:He can’t blitz B-team without deception anyway—movie he uses a confusion haze, book he baits Tiin and Kolar into dropping their guards
- CuckedCurryLevel Four
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 26th 2020, 11:25 am
I can’t remember if it’s in fightsaber or another source, but it clarifies the context of that battle
- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 6:22 am
I think Sheev is massivy above the B-Team, but they definitely should have put up a better fight. Tiin especially should have performed just as well against Sheev as Fisto did.
- CuckedCurryLevel Four
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 8:23 am
Well, Fisto performed as well as he did because the haze seemingly wore off him somewhat by the time Sheev turned to fight him. We know through other secondary sources that Mace failed to adequately react to Sidious, which can be inferred to be as a direct result of the confusion haze. In a straight up conventional fight with no haxx, Sidious logically would have had to dig considerably more so into the dark side to kill the 3 Jedi as well as hold off Mace. With that being said, none of the B-team have enough power to properly resist Palpatine’s sheer offensive power, so if Sheev just stood at his desk and blasted them with his lightning, for example, the B-team would die regardless
In short, I don’t believe Palpatine can blitz all three of them without haxx
In short, I don’t believe Palpatine can blitz all three of them without haxx
- Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 9:24 am
The confusion haze is still a part of Palpatine's own power. What he essentially accomplished is TP'ing three Jedi Masters in combat to allow him to kill them on the spot. It's a remarkable feat whichever way you spin it.
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- freethedevil
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 10:51 am
The film, the junior novel, the script, and the senior novel all have mace "adequately reacting" to sidious. The starwars.com quote is not meant to be taken literally lmao. And if you really want to take it that way then it's rendered non canon by the source material which clearly shows Mace reacing to Sidious's first attack.CuckedCurry wrote:Well, Fisto performed as well as he did because the haze seemingly wore off him somewhat by the time Sheev turned to fight him. We know through other secondary sources that Mace failed to adequately react to Sidious
- CuckedCurryLevel Four
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 1:41 pm
The film and script have him reacting to Palpatine not being at his desk, the novel has him reacting to Tiin and Kolar’s desk—can’t speak for the junior novel, but junior novels are pretty gay anyway, regardless of that equal canonicity to adult novel horseshite. Try again mouse
- O-Siri
Re: Top 10 strongest characters (headcanon)
May 28th 2020, 2:18 pm
Is the confusion haze Legends though? I thought it was Disney canon.
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