Yoda vs. Darth Maul & Ahsoka Tano

This fight is CANON only. Yoda as of Revenge of the Sith, Darth Maul in his prime, and Ahsoka Tano as of Star Wars Rebels. The fight takes place in the Senate rotunda. Who wins?

Ahsoka solos.

According to Filoni Rebels Ahsoka can match Sidious blow for blow

Yoda defeats both handily if going all out.

Team and it's not all that close

SithSauce wrote:According to Filoni Rebels Ahsoka can match Sidious blow for blow

I didn't really interpret the quote that way. Filoni was elaborating that the only people who could possibly match Ahsoka were Vader and Palpatine, but that doesn't preclude either of them overmatching her. We even saw quite clearly in the show that Vader is Ahsoka's superior and that Palpatine is far more powerful than Ahsoka.

Probably yoda, but i see it as a rather decent fight.

Ahsoka being inferior to canon Vader isn't anything to be ashamed of because canon Vader is the most powerful Sith during post-RotS era per Fallen Order quote, elevating him above Sheev. Canon Vader has also been described as being Sheev's most powerful Sith apprentice by light years, meaning that he's leagues upon leagues ahead of Maul and Dooku, who would individually get god stomped by Vader in canon. He is also two gaps above Maul and 3 gaps above Dooku per AEYTK list.

That Fallen Order quote is within a databank for the Mantis crew. They haven't encountered Sidious much less know he's Force sensitive.

TheNuisanceBird wrote:That Fallen Order quote is within a databank for the Mantis crew. They haven't encountered Sidious much less know he's Force sensitive.

u are not worthy of the wank.

it really isn't either. the logs are OOU and it's a tactical guide for the enemies of the game about as OOU as you can get. Like I don't mind if you just try to ignore it or say it lasts like a day but like this whole IU mantis crew argument is dishonest.

At the very least the Fallen Order quote puts him above Dooku and Maul

The G Canon Purist wrote:it really isn't either. the logs are OOU and it's a tactical guide for the enemies of the game about as OOU as you can get. Like I don't mind if you just try to ignore it or say it lasts like a day but like this whole IU mantis crew argument is dishonest.

But then you'd have to say we're supposed to take it literally otherwise and so far in canon I'm not convinced Vader > Sidious. That's something they have to show us not tell us. 

Even going by the films Vader being more powerful than Sidious doesn't make any sense as he needs Luke's help to overthrow him. Even if he didn't need Luke's help there's no reason to as why he wouldn't overthrow Sidious.

SithSauce wrote:At the very least the Fallen Order quote puts him above Dooku and Maul

While Vader > Dooku and Maul in canon is expected and has been said, from what I remember the quote from Fallen Order only applies to post ROTS.

Yoda wins after a decent fight

The duo win for sure, filoni recently said that season 7 tcw maul and Ahsoka “maybe, you know what, could have beat Sidious”. 
https://youtu.be/d_NmvaJyzj0
2:10

To me it sounds like at first he meant maybe but he changed his mind that they could have

TheNuisanceBird wrote:

The G Canon Purist wrote:it really isn't either. the logs are OOU and it's a tactical guide for the enemies of the game about as OOU as you can get. Like I don't mind if you just try to ignore it or say it lasts like a day but like this whole IU mantis crew argument is dishonest.

But then you'd have to say we're supposed to take it literally otherwise and so far in canon I'm not convinced Vader > Sidious. That's something they have to show us not tell us. 

Even going by the films Vader being more powerful than Sidious doesn't make any sense as he needs Luke's help to overthrow him. Even if he didn't need Luke's help there's no reason to as why he wouldn't overthrow Sidious.

Doesn’t Vader in his comic have a vision that he would have beat Sidious if he turned on him? When he was making his lightsaber red. That + the fallen order quote + Ren having the bloodline of the strongest Jedi AND SITH, seal the deal imo

Yoda gets rag dolled continuously.

xmysticgohanx wrote:The duo win for sure, filoni recently said that season 7 tcw maul and Ahsoka “maybe, you know what, could have beat Sidious”. 
https://youtu.be/d_NmvaJyzj0
2:10

To me it sounds like at first he meant maybe but he changed his mind that they could have

He was saying it as in Ahsoka's thoughts at the time.

xmysticgohanx wrote:

TheNuisanceBird wrote:

The G Canon Purist wrote:it really isn't either. the logs are OOU and it's a tactical guide for the enemies of the game about as OOU as you can get. Like I don't mind if you just try to ignore it or say it lasts like a day but like this whole IU mantis crew argument is dishonest.

But then you'd have to say we're supposed to take it literally otherwise and so far in canon I'm not convinced Vader > Sidious. That's something they have to show us not tell us. 

Even going by the films Vader being more powerful than Sidious doesn't make any sense as he needs Luke's help to overthrow him. Even if he didn't need Luke's help there's no reason to as why he wouldn't overthrow Sidious.

Doesn’t Vader in his comic have a vision that he would have beat Sidious if he turned on him? When he was making his lightsaber red. That + the fallen order quote + Ren having the bloodline of the strongest Jedi AND SITH, seal the deal imo

That's just a vision so we can't take it literally. It's the same as him ragdolling ROTS Kenobi and winning against a younger version of himself in his head. 

For me it comes down to Vader > Sidious not lining up with the films in anyway. 

Where is that stated and what's the exact quote?

BoD wrote:

xmysticgohanx wrote:The duo win for sure, filoni recently said that season 7 tcw maul and Ahsoka “maybe, you know what, could have beat Sidious”. 
https://youtu.be/d_NmvaJyzj0
2:10

To me it sounds like at first he meant maybe but he changed his mind that they could have

He was saying it as in Ahsoka's thoughts at the time.

That doesn’t make any sense. Ahsoka has no idea how strong Sidious is or even who is.

Just because Maul thinks they could take Sidious doesn't mean they can...
Are we forgetting Maul is one of the most arrogant Sith Lords ever?

SithSauce wrote:Just because Maul thinks they could take Sidious doesn't mean they can...
Are we forgetting Maul is one of the most arrogant Sith Lords ever?

Filoni confirms it was definitely possible

Maul gets fodderized. Ahsoka needs a non-bantha tier teammate

freethedevil wrote:Maul gets fodderized. Ahsoka needs a non-bantha tier teammate

If Maul gets fodderized than Ahsoka does too, as Prime Maul (Rebels S2) is arguably on Prime Ahsoka's level.