Re: Darth Vader V Exar Kun

November 23rd 2019, 7:22 pm

Amazing reply, the western hemisphere bows in awe.

Thank you so much. If I thought there was any value in responding to anything you write I would but as it stands:

A) Literally no one agrees with you so clowning you for the sake of convincing others is needless (there's no one to convince).

B) You've changed your responses to the Malak quote so many times that debating to convince you is pointless, you'll never accept defeat.

November 23rd 2019, 7:23 pm

LadyKulvax wrote:It's talking about Jedi Kun...

Ehh - the 'fearsome" bit is kinda confusing, given it's never a word I'd associate with a Jedi, and him making a direct comparison to a Sith is also weird, given he was referring to a Jedi.

November 23rd 2019, 7:28 pm

Literally no one agrees, really wordsalad, except those that do? Nice, great logic. You couldn't clown me if you were Joaquin Pheonix.

I've never changed my stance, I've attacked it from every angle and the mountain of reasons it shouldn't be taken even as seriously as the Darth Bane GOAT quotes are listed previously.

It's a bandwagon quote everyone jumped on the moment Ant told them to. But for some reason everyone prior to that mocked WOTC openly. Tell me, of the two of those positions, which one flip-flopped? I've always considered WOTC to be almost exclusively an internal game narrative.

I'm not the fickle one here, lmfao.

November 23rd 2019, 7:30 pm

Word Salad wrote:A) Literally no one agrees with you so clowning you for the sake of convincing others is needless (there's no one to convince)..

I do

November 23rd 2019, 7:33 pm

Deronn_Solo wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:It's talking about Jedi Kun...

Ehh - the 'fearsome" bit is kinda confusing, given it's never a word I'd associate with a Jedi, and him making a direct comparison to a Sith is also weird, given he was referring to a Jedi.

Well Anakin was a Jedi but you'd still call him fearsome. Kun was a hot-head too. So I see no reason to think it's confusing on that front.

November 23rd 2019, 7:33 pm

@ladykulvax It’s an interview with Tom Veitch, Chris Gossett, and Dan Thorsland in Adventure Journal #02. Dan’s been the editor for nearly all Dark Horse comics that have and will bear the Star Wars title.

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November 23rd 2019, 7:35 pm

November 23rd 2019, 7:36 pm

Thanks for clarifying, so it's the three TOTJ heads. Makes sense.

November 23rd 2019, 7:38 pm

BreakofDawn wrote:

It's not at all, I made it clear from the beginning that I was unsure who it was asked to.

It'd be sweet to say Jedi Kun > Vader but it's not as if he needs it when we know he scales from him in a far more impressive manner.

November 23rd 2019, 7:39 pm

Yeah...no. Unless we're using your Kun scaling above solar system level, of course.

November 23rd 2019, 7:40 pm

Jake wrote:

Word Salad wrote:A) Literally no one agrees with you so clowning you for the sake of convincing others is needless (there's no one to convince)..

I do

November 23rd 2019, 7:41 pm

Lol it's not even debatable.

TOTJ Kun >>> JA Kun > DS Kyp > JA Luke > DE Luke > ROTJ Luke >\~ ROTJ Vader

I can provide the sources for literally all of that.

November 23rd 2019, 7:42 pm

Jake wrote:@ladykulvax Dan’s been the editor for nearly all Dark Horse comics that have and will bear the Star Wars title.

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Say what, now?

November 23rd 2019, 7:42 pm

I'm going to leave this to HP or someone else who actually knows enough about Kun to challenge this. I don't particularly care for Mr. Solar System Level.

November 23rd 2019, 7:44 pm

Shoo now.

November 23rd 2019, 7:46 pm

Definitely seems to be an authority. From that Adventure Journal;

6 - Darth Vader V Exar Kun - Page 7 2f970910

November 23rd 2019, 7:48 pm

How canonical would you wager his word then? Because frankly Jedi Kun > Vader is the most OP shit you could imagine.

November 23rd 2019, 7:51 pm

LadyKulvax wrote:

Deronn_Solo wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:It's talking about Jedi Kun...

Ehh - the 'fearsome" bit is kinda confusing, given it's never a word I'd associate with a Jedi, and him making a direct comparison to a Sith is also weird, given he was referring to a Jedi.

Well Anakin was a Jedi but you'd still call him fearsome. Kun was a hot-head too. So I see no reason to think it's confusing on that front.

Hmm, fair enough.

November 23rd 2019, 8:05 pm

Btw, the quote wasn't talking about Jedi Kun being stronger than Vader. It was talking about his actions and how they were so horrid they made Vader look like a good guy. Here's the full quote. It says he grew far more powerful when he fell to the dark side, but it's saying what he did to get that power was so much worse than what Vader did.

6 - Darth Vader V Exar Kun - Page 7 Screen47

November 23rd 2019, 8:07 pm

You've unwittingly just made it better.

November 23rd 2019, 8:09 pm

LadyKulvax wrote:You've unwittingly just made it better.

You know that when it says about "unbelievable power" it's talking about him restoring the Sith and learning their secrets, right?

November 23rd 2019, 8:17 pm

You realise a paragraph can have more than one point, right?

November 23rd 2019, 8:23 pm

I do, just as I realise that a paragraph that starts with a discussion of ancient Sith and how Exar Kun is on a journey to bring them back from the edge of extinction and eventually becomes a galactic problem generally refers to something other than personal power.

November 23rd 2019, 8:26 pm

He is the Sith. Hence restoring their power, because he takes up the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith through Marka Ragnos. Which actually matches with the fact he was the only one since Ragnos worthy of it. His power is unbelievable. He becomes a galactic problem through creating a brotherhood of Sith which he used to decapitate Jedi leadership and blow up the greatest Jedi center there ever was until the Temple on Coruscant. He ended the Jedi golden age and everything after went from bad to worse until the Ruusan reformations.

November 23rd 2019, 8:36 pm

he is kinda right tho. out of verse statements from people are full of bias and thought up in the heat of the moment most of the time, while novel ones have time, thought, editing, etc put into them. there's obi wan being a 6, vader being a 4 means that obi wan= sheev, for example. or that one in which vader beats nihilus, but gets stomped by revan too. i think the guy who wrote plagueis also says that plagueis could beat sheev too. there's more than just a bunch of shit like that lol