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Darth Vader (RoTJ) vs Jaina Solo Fel (FoTJ)

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Haggis
Haggis

Darth Vader (RoTJ) vs Jaina Solo Fel (FoTJ) Empty Darth Vader (RoTJ) vs Jaina Solo Fel (FoTJ)

February 26th 2020, 1:07 pm
Darth Vader as of Return of the Jedi
Jaina Solo Fel as of the Fate of the Jedi book series. 

Standard morals, equipment etc.
The Fallen Warrior
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February 26th 2020, 1:09 pm
Rotj Vader > Lumiya ~ LOTF Luke ~ Jaina solo fel
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MasterCilghal
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February 26th 2020, 1:24 pm
Jaina should win this on the back of far greater hype and implied skill.
IG
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February 26th 2020, 1:30 pm
Jaina has this
xolthol
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February 27th 2020, 1:06 am
Jaina because of her combat equal quote
HellfireUnit
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February 27th 2020, 2:15 am
Vader
CuckedCurry
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February 27th 2020, 2:25 am
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Vader holds out one hand 

And gets it sliced off
BreakofDawn
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February 27th 2020, 4:06 am
Interesting how people's opinions of Jaina seem to change the moment Vader is mentioned.

OT: Vader stomps.
AncientPower
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February 27th 2020, 4:08 am
Vader wins, he doesn't stomp though. Jaina's above everyone he's faced bar Sam Witwer's face and Luke.
BreakofDawn
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February 27th 2020, 4:10 am
LadyKulvax wrote:Vader wins, he doesn't stomp though. Jaina's above everyone he's faced bar Sam Witwer's face and Luke.
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MasterCilghal
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February 27th 2020, 4:15 am
My opinion of Jaina has changed substantially in the last few months, as I’ve started to think the famous “equal of anyone in the order”, which is backed up by another quote, both of which strongly point to Jaina approaching Luke in skill by Apocalypse along with a TK feat that might as well place her pretty high in force power. 


BoD wrote:OT: Vader stomps.



Mind substantiating a bit? 
The Witness
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February 27th 2020, 5:31 am
Vader
IG
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February 27th 2020, 6:39 am
@BoD No, I’ve always held Jaina and NJO higher than most of the forum bar NJO brigade.
Haggis
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February 27th 2020, 7:27 am
MasterCilghal wrote:My opinion of Jaina has changed substantially in the last few months, as I’ve started to think the famous “equal of anyone in the order”, which is backed up by another quote, both of which strongly point to Jaina approaching Luke in skill by Apocalypse along with a TK feat that might as well place her pretty high in force power. 

This TK being?
IG
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February 27th 2020, 7:33 am
@Haggis

“ Abeloth's hand flicked and Jaina found herself tumbling down the duct backward. She saw the rectangle of a stack-head flash beneath her; she slammed down and rolled twice before she could finally use the force to bring herself to a stop.”
-FoTJ Apocalypse

I think it’s this one
Haggis
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February 27th 2020, 7:35 am
IG wrote:@Haggis

“ Abeloth's hand flicked and Jaina found herself tumbling down the duct backward. She saw the rectangle of a stack-head flash beneath her; she slammed down and rolled twice before she could finally use the force to bring herself to a stop.”
-FoTJ Apocalypse

I think it’s this one

I thought it might have been, but thought I would ask in case there was some other decent TK feat that slipped through the communities fingers. Thanks though.
The lord of hunger
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February 27th 2020, 10:22 am
Vader stomps
Haggis
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February 27th 2020, 10:29 am
BoD wrote:OT: Vader stomps

The lord of hunger wrote:Vader stomps

Since the pair of you believe it to be so one-sided would you guys care to explain why you think so?
The Lost
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February 27th 2020, 10:38 am
Jaina is probably a better duelist but I'm not convinced yet that she's a better telekinetic than Vader. Seems like a pretty great fight actually.
lorenzo.r.2nd
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February 27th 2020, 11:18 am
she is more agile, but aside from that, i really cant give her the edge on anything else. maybe speed, but even then, vader's speed feats are quite good.
BreakofDawn
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February 27th 2020, 12:06 pm
Mind substantiating a bit? 

Vader's feats and power growth over short periods of time impress me more than Jaina. He also has better mastery of the Force and more knowledge of it, including of more esoteric abilities. He should also be more technically skilled. While "stomp" is an exaggeration due to Jaina's better speed and agility, he should still win fairly handily on account of him possessing virtually every other advantage, from strength and durability to raw Force power and knowledge.
Haggis
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February 27th 2020, 12:58 pm
BoD wrote:He also has better mastery of the Force and more knowledge of it, including of more esoteric abilities.

I am curious as to how Vader's esoteric abilities would come into play against Jaina if it is an advantage worth noting? Typically Vader just relies on his TK, which is fine. However one would need to prove that his TK is so much greater than Fel's own as to make a difference. 

He should also be more technically skilled.

Advantages in technical skill don't necessarily translate to superiority in general skill. Someone like Cin Drallig is probably among the most technically skilled Jedi of his time, but not the most skilled full stop.
BreakofDawn
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February 27th 2020, 1:03 pm
Will get back to this in a bit.
IG
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February 27th 2020, 1:09 pm
Jaina black lightning oneshots.
The Lost
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February 27th 2020, 1:15 pm
IG wrote:Jaina black lightning oneshots.
Does she have POTENT feats with it? Vader holding up to 'killers lightning somewhat after adding insulation to his armor is pretty damn insane.
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