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The Ellimist
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Obi Wan vs. prime Grievous Empty Obi Wan vs. prime Grievous

January 27th 2020, 4:43 am
This is Grievous at the height of his powers.

1. Utapau Obi Wan
2. Peak Obi Wan
Latham2000
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January 27th 2020, 7:29 am
Obi-Wan Kenobi wins again because his guard is too accustomed to pressure fights.
Decaf_Beverages
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January 27th 2020, 8:49 am
Obi-Wan loses to Prime Grievous in a somewhat decent fight

Even seriously wounded and disadvantaged Grievous gave Obi-Wan a hard time and broke his guard.


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BreakofDawn
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January 27th 2020, 9:16 am
Latham2000
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January 27th 2020, 1:37 pm
Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.
Decaf_Beverages
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January 28th 2020, 6:12 pm
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
Latham2000
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January 28th 2020, 7:14 pm
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
The source is inferring that was his intent, but it doesn’t mean that he succeeded because Obi-Wan caught up with him.
Decaf_Beverages
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January 28th 2020, 9:25 pm
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
The source is inferring that was his intent, but it doesn’t mean that he succeeded because Obi-Wan caught up with him.

No, the source is patently bullshit, its a DK Adventures source, which are notoriously bullshit and I am not even sure they can be considered canon

It never said he intended into flee into outer space, it says that he FLED into outer space where his duranium shell allowed him to withstand "crushing air pressure" (whatever the fuck that means, as there isn't "air pressure" in space). Which isn't what happened on Utapau, its what happened the Invisible Hand in the orbit of Coruscant

The fact you would use such a nonsensical quote says a lot
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January 28th 2020, 10:03 pm
Not only that, but that quote runs against pretty much every other source of info.
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January 29th 2020, 1:42 am
The RotS novel follows the continuity of LoE where Grievous doesn't get his chest crushed. Kenobi wins as he did in continuity.
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January 29th 2020, 5:45 am
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
The source is inferring that was his intent, but it doesn’t mean that he succeeded because Obi-Wan caught up with him.

No, the source is patently bullshit, its a DK Adventures source, which are notoriously bullshit and I am not even sure they can be considered canon

It never said he intended into flee into outer space, it says that he FLED into outer space where his duranium shell allowed him to withstand "crushing air pressure" (whatever the fuck that means, as there isn't "air pressure" in space). Which isn't what happened on Utapau, its what happened the Invisible Hand in the orbit of Coruscant

The fact you would use such a nonsensical quote says a lot

So you're saying that because it suggests that Grievous escaped death (which contradicts the movie), it's description of Obi-Wan vs Grievous must therefore be wrong, even though it doesn't contradict the movie? Get out of here with that logic.
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January 29th 2020, 5:57 am
O-Siri wrote:The RotS novel follows the continuity of LoE where Grievous doesn't get his chest crushed. Kenobi wins as he did in continuity.
Decaf_Beverages
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January 29th 2020, 10:36 am
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
The source is inferring that was his intent, but it doesn’t mean that he succeeded because Obi-Wan caught up with him.

No, the source is patently bullshit, its a DK Adventures source, which are notoriously bullshit and I am not even sure they can be considered canon

It never said he intended into flee into outer space, it says that he FLED into outer space where his duranium shell allowed him to withstand "crushing air pressure" (whatever the fuck that means, as there isn't "air pressure" in space). Which isn't what happened on Utapau, its what happened the Invisible Hand in the orbit of Coruscant

The fact you would use such a nonsensical quote says a lot

So you're saying that because it suggests that Grievous escaped death (which contradicts the movie), it's description of Obi-Wan vs Grievous must therefore be wrong, even though it doesn't contradict the movie? Get out of here with that logic.

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote
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January 29th 2020, 11:24 am
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January 29th 2020, 1:50 pm
Grievous.
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January 29th 2020, 4:27 pm
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:Grievous was at the height of his powers in RotS if I am not mistaken, and he was no match for Utapau Kenobi:

"Grievous liked to steal lightsabers from the Jedi he killed, and he hoped to add Obi-Wan's weapon to his collection! When the two came face-to-face in one of planet Utapau's large sinkhole cities, Obi-Wan had to contend with many unpredictable attacks from the half-machine, half-creature. However, without the power of the Force, Grievous was no match for the Jedi. Obi-Wan was able to anticipate Grievous's blows and cut off several of his hands. The cyborg was forced to flee into outer space, where his tough duranium shell allowed hum to withstand the crushing air pressure." -- Star Wars Jedi Battles (2013).

Kenobi wins.

That quote makes absolutely no sense. Grievous did not flee into space on Utapau
The source is inferring that was his intent, but it doesn’t mean that he succeeded because Obi-Wan caught up with him.

No, the source is patently bullshit, its a DK Adventures source, which are notoriously bullshit and I am not even sure they can be considered canon

It never said he intended into flee into outer space, it says that he FLED into outer space where his duranium shell allowed him to withstand "crushing air pressure" (whatever the fuck that means, as there isn't "air pressure" in space). Which isn't what happened on Utapau, its what happened the Invisible Hand in the orbit of Coruscant

The fact you would use such a nonsensical quote says a lot

So you're saying that because it suggests that Grievous escaped death (which contradicts the movie), it's description of Obi-Wan vs Grievous must therefore be wrong, even though it doesn't contradict the movie? Get out of here with that logic.

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote

This is assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, which it isn't.
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January 29th 2020, 4:42 pm
@Latham2000 I would suggest using the tag feature or only quote  the other user’s last statement so not to make the thread painful to read.
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January 29th 2020, 7:32 pm

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote

This is assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, which it isn't.

You are missing the point that what this quote implies directly contradicts the almost all canon sources and ROTS itself

I don't understand how you dont understand this
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January 30th 2020, 9:04 am
Decaf_Beverages wrote:

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote

This is assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, which it isn't.

You are missing the point that what this quote implies directly contradicts the almost all canon sources and ROTS itself

I don't understand how you dont understand this

What's that got to do with Grievous being no match for Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan being able to anticipate Grievous's lightsaber strikes, which isn't contradicted by any other sources, tell me?
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January 30th 2020, 9:36 am
Grevious is stated in a few other sources to be no match for ROTS Kenobi arguable he was even hindered at all in their bought
Decaf_Beverages
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January 30th 2020, 11:27 am
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote

This is assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, which it isn't.

You are missing the point that what this quote implies directly contradicts the almost all canon sources and ROTS itself

I don't understand how you dont understand this

What's that got to do with Grievous being no match for Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan being able to anticipate Grievous's lightsaber strikes, which isn't contradicted by any other sources, tell me?

You don't think that such a nonsensical quote MIGHT be somewhat unusable given part of it was already called into extreme question?
Decaf_Beverages
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January 30th 2020, 11:28 am
Isv wrote:Grevious is stated in a few other sources to be no match for ROTS Kenobi arguable he was even hindered at all in their bought

Isv, don't make me slap you

You know as well as I do that Grievous was hindered
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January 30th 2020, 11:59 am
Kenobi wins, again.
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January 30th 2020, 12:18 pm
Decaf_Beverages wrote:
Latham2000 wrote:
Decaf_Beverages wrote:

Get out of here with logic that a source that mistakes Utapau for fucking Coruscant and claimed Grievous survived, all while describing events that never happened in any of the several novelizations of this story can possibly be an admissible quote

This is assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence, which it isn't.

You are missing the point that what this quote implies directly contradicts the almost all canon sources and ROTS itself

I don't understand how you dont understand this

What's that got to do with Grievous being no match for Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan being able to anticipate Grievous's lightsaber strikes, which isn't contradicted by any other sources, tell me?

You don't think that such a nonsensical quote MIGHT be somewhat unusable given part of it was already called into extreme question?

The only thing that's nonsensical is the implications of where Grievous fleed after being defeated by Kenobi. How it describes Kenobi vs Grievous, isn't nonsensical and doesn't contradict the movie in any shape or form.
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February 7th 2020, 12:06 am
King Joker wrote:Kenobi wins, again.
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