★ Top Fifteen Tournament #7 - Yoda

Do we vote power and only power? Or everything considered?

THREAD ANNOUNCEMENT

After deliberation, I have decided to temporarily ban UnuThul for multiple reasons until the List Reorganization after round ten. UnuThul, and perhaps Lomi Plo and Welk, will then have the opportunity to be voted directly into the list based on guidelines that will be provided at a later date. Arguments from this thread will be moved over to the List Reorganization thread when that occurs. Note, however, that Gethzerion, Kueller, Zoro Ziil, and similar characters will remain in the active running. 

Current running so far:

YODA:
- @Blade_of_Dorin
- @BoD
- @lorenzo.r.2nd
- @Gianfi
- @Syndiciate
- @DC77 (Reborn)
- @Seturna

REVAN:
- @KingofBlades
- @IG (Exists)
- @mr dinky

DARTH PLAGUEIS:
- @Shioz
- @Maks Leem

PLEASE VOTE / CHANGE VOTE:
- @EmperorCaedus
- @Bart
- @MasterCilghal
- @Azronger
- @Quorian Debatist
- @Reynard (Ethanion)
- @ILS
- @The lord of hunger
- @Quorian Debatist

I change my vote to gethzerion in her prime

ok im interested enough to see how this is going 

ot: change my vote again to yoda

Backing Yoda, then.

Anything ant says is a lie

ILS wrote:

DC77 (Reborn) wrote:@BoD:

That's not what he was saying. SWTOR Vitiate (a Sith) is > any Revan, and Vitiate is a Sith and is subject to those supremacy quotes. Ergo, Revan < Vitiate < Sidious.

Thanks for explaining it too him, it seems some people lack reading comprehension.

Warning for showing sincere gratitude

Hey, it's the only compliment or gratitude I'll get as a barely decent debater, let me have this one.

Hmmmm, probably Geth.
She’s tricky enough that beating her will basically require you being far more powerful than her, whereas with Kueller once Malgus gets to his level it’s almost a done deal. 
Yeah Geth because Kueller isn’t so much more powerful than Gethezerion that he could brush aside her sorcery and shit.

Yoda gets absolutely screwed by Geth’s power and sorcery though.

her scaling is just better than yoda's

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:her scaling is just better than yoda's

Well it’s that and she has everything Yoda has and more. She’s not really lacking in any one area and her power (when she is toying no less) is in-line with Vader’s perceived or sensed power, not his useable power. Vader’s sensed power is up there with Anakin and Yoda, although all you can confidentially say about his useable power is that it is > TPM Maul by a decent margin.

well, we dont know how well she fights, but we do know that all sisters are trained in h2h and weapons and whatnot as a matter of fact, so she isnt defenseless in that area either.

What about Charal?

She’s going in with the reorganization IG.

idk who that is. elaborate?

IG (Exists) wrote:What about Charal?

the one from the ewok movies?

Yes. She has an insane megafeat in a comic book that scales from ragdolling moons and 4 shotting ROTS Yoda.

vader scales above her, though, doesnt he? and in turn, so would geth and joruus.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:vader scales above her, though, doesnt he? and in turn, so would geth and joruus.

No, Vader does not, as the thing that she fourshots is outright said to be >>> Vader in force power.

actually he got merked by warrick on the movie so lol

Vader is said to be stronger than any other being in the verse aside from sheev in ANH. if anything, they would be equal. which has higher authority here?

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:Vader is said to be stronger than any other being in the verse aside from sheev in ANH. if anything, they would be equal. which has higher authority here

vader is above her in literally any sense getting merked by a ewok is a extremely low showing

ok?

Well Lorenzo, all of those quotes are In-universe, and the only one that isn’t mentions Xizor as the third most powerful, so those quotes are bunk lol.
The most likely explanation is that IU Vader seemed that powerful because he was still sensed to be as powerful as Anakin and Yoda, even if he was nowhere close. Charal was off on some planet somewhere, so all of the IU ones written by Rebel Historians would be bs tbh. And then all the political power ones that mention Xizor are again, bs.

The lord of hunger wrote:

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:Vader is said to be stronger than any other being in the verse aside from sheev in ANH. if anything, they would be equal. which has higher authority here

vader is above her in literally any sense getting merked by a ewok is a extremely low showing

There is also a quote saying Wicket beat Sheev.

are they all in universe? idk. almost all are narrative quotes.