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Gaunter O'Dimm
Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 5:13 am
TPM versions of both. Both are bloodlusted. The battle takes place in the office of the Supreme Chancellor.
BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 5:14 am
Yoda. More powerful and MM has never been used on combat ready Force users, let alone one as powerful as Yoda. He's also much more skilled.
CuckedCurryLevel Four
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 5:17 am
Not so sure anymore, I can see scenarios in which either one could win
IGLevel Four
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 9:46 am
Yoda ~ Rots Sheev >> Post Boost Sheev >= Plagueis
Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 10:19 am
TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.
Yoda loses here.
Yoda loses here.
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EmperorCaedusLevel Three
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 1:39 pm
There's no feasible way Plagueis wins unless under circumstances in his favor, Yoda smacks.
dark_globe
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 4:42 pm
yoda (this has been done already i think)
yoda wins as of TPM/AoTC/RoTS ,,,
plagueis is a bit below PT yoda .
yoda wins as of TPM/AoTC/RoTS ,,,
plagueis is a bit below PT yoda .
- BreakofDawnLevel Seven
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 5:19 pm
Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.
Yoda loses here.
- EmperorCaedusLevel Three
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 6:54 pm
It's baitBreakofDawn wrote:Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.
Yoda loses here.
Shioz
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 9:17 pm
Just now I noticed that this is TPM Yoda. In this case, Plagueis definitely wins.
HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 9:35 pm
I disagree. I don't see Yoda growing between TPM-RotS, instead him getting older and weaker everyday.
MPModerator | Champion of Darkness
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 10:01 pm
It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.
- EmperorCaedusLevel Three
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 2nd 2019, 10:21 pm
MM isn't a sure-fire way. In fact, if he uses it and he fails, he is finished.SomeAncientPower wrote:It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.
TPM Sidious is Plagueis's superior
TPM Sidious grows significantly in power until RotS.
Yoda and RotS Sidious are stated as equals, Yoda beat him with a lightsaber, while Sidious ended it with the force, they stalemated
Thus, Yoda ~ RotS Sidious >> TPM Sidious > Plagueis
- MPModerator | Champion of Darkness
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 3rd 2019, 1:16 am
@EmperorCaedus
MM should be useable against someone if they create a gap in their Force wall, since midichlorians are physical organelles. All Plagueis has to do to initiate the progress is send an instruction.
Sidious and Plagueis as of TPM are comparable in power, and Sidious can only use his TPM level power without deteriorating his body (or rather expediting it). So the Sidious who fights Yoda in sabers during ROTS is the same Sidious from TPM in terms of dueling (though likely to have a lot more reserves). And this is TPM Yoda. So if Plagueis can at least compete with Yoda in dueling, he still has a chance, especially since he'll be bloodlusted.
Granted, I'm not entirely sure how bloodlusted Yoda would fight, but since we're taking away his practice from the Clone Wars, I don't see why he's not a good match for Plagueis.
MM should be useable against someone if they create a gap in their Force wall, since midichlorians are physical organelles. All Plagueis has to do to initiate the progress is send an instruction.
Sidious and Plagueis as of TPM are comparable in power, and Sidious can only use his TPM level power without deteriorating his body (or rather expediting it). So the Sidious who fights Yoda in sabers during ROTS is the same Sidious from TPM in terms of dueling (though likely to have a lot more reserves). And this is TPM Yoda. So if Plagueis can at least compete with Yoda in dueling, he still has a chance, especially since he'll be bloodlusted.
Granted, I'm not entirely sure how bloodlusted Yoda would fight, but since we're taking away his practice from the Clone Wars, I don't see why he's not a good match for Plagueis.
- EmperorCaedusLevel Three
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 3rd 2019, 9:52 am
1. Plagueis has never implemented MM into any one of his fights, so it would be hard for you to gauge how effective MM would be on Yoda, who is described as the Light's most powerful being ever up until that point. Plagueis implementing MM into his battle with Yoda would be extremely risky, and opens him up to further counter attacks from Yoda.SomeAncientPower wrote:@EmperorCaedus
MM should be useable against someone if they create a gap in their Force wall, since midichlorians are physical organelles. All Plagueis has to do to initiate the progress is send an instruction.
Sidious and Plagueis as of TPM are comparable in power, and Sidious can only use his TPM level power without deteriorating his body (or rather expediting it). So the Sidious who fights Yoda in sabers during ROTS is the same Sidious from TPM in terms of dueling (though likely to have a lot more reserves). And this is TPM Yoda. So if Plagueis can at least compete with Yoda in dueling, he still has a chance, especially since he'll be bloodlusted.
Granted, I'm not entirely sure how bloodlusted Yoda would fight, but since we're taking away his practice from the Clone Wars, I don't see why he's not a good match for Plagueis.
2. Sidious as of TPM was less powerful due to either hiding his power, or just being less powerful to his RotS iteration. There is evidence to support the ladder because Sidious grew in power due to the destruction of the Jedi, while Yoda was still clouded by the "screams of Jedi." There is also no evidence supporting that Yoda had a significant change in power at all.
3. A blood lusted Yoda would fight much like a blood lusted Luke. After Luke thought Lumiya killed her wife Mara, his power level went significantly down, as shown in his duel with Lumiya. Plagueis might be a threat, but Yoda would deal with him effectively than most.
- Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 3rd 2019, 10:05 am
BreakofDawn wrote:Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.
Yoda loses here.
No, but I plan to
- Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 3rd 2019, 10:07 am
EmperorCaedus wrote:It's baitBreakofDawn wrote:Azronger wrote:TPM Yoda < Asajj Ventress.
Yoda loses here.
Genuinely insulted you think I'd use something like that as bait.
- HellfireUnitLevel Six
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 3rd 2019, 12:15 pm
SomeAncientPower wrote:It’s confirmed he grew. In any case, I say Plagueis since Yoda might be a lot more prone to slipping up his defences, allowing Plagueis to kill him via MM.
Can you share the source where it is confirmed that he grew?
- Shioz
Re: Yoda vs Darth Plagueis
December 6th 2019, 12:08 pm
Did canon ever say that Yoda would defeat the Plagueis in a duel?EmperorCaedus wrote:Yoda, canonically.
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