Pre-Nathema Vitiate?

this thread is actually for me lol i dont really know much about vitiate before he ritualized himself. ive been wondering how strong the guy is, without such a big amp. there are statements that put him below exar kun, when he was still alive, or him being above all of his dark council members. could u guys help me out? feats, statements, scaling, theories even. tell me everything, if u will

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t1281-did-exar-kun-revan-vitiate-malgus-and-nihlius-live-at-the-same-time

I wrote a bit about him there.

oh cool cool thanks man