Marka Ragnos vs. Tenebrous' Master

Antediluvians vs. Sheevites, the penultimate showdown... FIGHT

Banite scaling is pretty potent by the time you get to Tenebrous' Master. Ragnos has some pretty solid scaling as well, though it's hard to argue it compares to Banite scaling.

The Banite has this.

Banite would not lose to a Jedi Padawan.

Tenebrous's Master.

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Antediluvians vs. Sheevites, the penultimate showdown… FIGHT

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Tenebrous's master burst open the light side bubble of the Jedi Order and scales above Ramage and massively above Bane and Zannah. He takes this.

@Azronger: I just like the word penultimate, I know what it means, it really doesn’t belong here, but I like the sound for this.

Ragnos vs Bane would be a better fight.

Frankly, Kun is possibly only a ragdoll tier or two above Ragnos, and Kun is also at the level of BFC Luke, or at the very least two ragdoll tiers above DE Luke.

Lol AP has infected you with the Kun wank.

How’s that wank? Putting him above Tenebrous is wank? And Ragnos should be ~ Tenebrous. The greater the Kun wank, greater the Revan wank, after all.

Putting Kun two ragdoll tiers above DE Luke is severe wanking considering DE Luke is on the same tier as the PT titans like Yoda, Mace, and KF Vader.

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Frankly, Kun is possibly only a ragdoll tier or two above Ragnos, and Kun is also at the level of BFC Luke, or at the very least two ragdoll tiers above DE Luke.

About to hop on my PC so I can get to several post here I promised to get to, so can you substantiate any of these claims, IG?

DE Luke is a ragdoll tier beneath Ood, who’s likely a tier or so beneath Kun. Either way, Revan should be > DE Luke, so that makes no sense.

RotJ Luke is an Obi Wan level character based on his equality with Vader. Luke is said to undergo enormous growth between RotJ and the start of DE. Kun being multiple ragdoll tiers DE luke means he would be multiple ragdoll tiers above the best of the PT era. And since he's below sf malak who is below KotOR Revan who is bound by both Yoda and Anakin's GOAT quotes you cannot place Kun where you do.

DE Luke might beat SOR Revan.

This is why I hate GOAT quotes.

Ant, if Luke might beat Revan in his prime, then how come Kun is above DE Luke?

I don’t have Kun near DE Luke.

I meant that Ood > Luke & Kun > Ood.

I don’t want to dive into the specifics until your debate with Praxis is finished.

That's probably going to take a while, but okay.

Deronn_Solo wrote:

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Frankly, Kun is possibly only a ragdoll tier or two above Ragnos, and Kun is also at the level of BFC Luke, or at the very least two ragdoll tiers above DE Luke.

About to hop on my PC so I can get to several post here I promised to get to, so can you substantiate any of these claims, IG?

Remember that your post to me is one of them, @Deronn_Solo

Deronn_Solo wrote:

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Frankly, Kun is possibly only a ragdoll tier or two above Ragnos, and Kun is also at the level of BFC Luke, or at the very least two ragdoll tiers above DE Luke.

About to hop on my PC so I can get to several post here I promised to get to, so can you substantiate any of these claims, IG?

Well, Kun is able to stalemate Ood Bnar (who's drawing the full power of Ossus, which survived the Cron Supernova), while vastly pre-prime. After raiding Ossus (where he fought Ood), Kun's power grows vastly, to the point where he is far more powerful than anyone in the Order. If you remember, it took a Wall of Light to kill him. 4000 years later, Ood manages to vaporize XL Sedriss, a superior to Jerec, and a serious threat to Luke, to the point where it's stated that, "Had it been merely a contest between dark side adepts and Jedi, Sedriss might have been victorious."

IdrisianGraecus wrote:it took a Wall of Light to kill him. 4000 years later, Ood manages to vaporize XL Sedriss, a superior to Jerec, and a serious threat to Luke, to the point where it's stated that, "Had it been merely a contest between dark side adepts and Jedi, Sedriss might have been victorious."

The quote you are referring to is contradicted by the  primary source, that being the comic itself,in which Luke is able to literally one-shot Sedriss with a force push: 



While it is true that Sedriss is able to put up a moderate fight in the audio version he loses badly as soon as Luke resorts to his force abilities. So we can establish that Sedriss is, at best, able to compete with Luke in sabers but is far below him in power.