KF Vader runs the TK tug-of-war gauntlet

BreakofDawn wrote:9.

HellfireUnit wrote:Stops at 1.

KingofBlades wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:Stops at 1.

O-Siri wrote:You don't have to be equal in power to resist a Force attack. Bane and Kas'im, it's only the former's far more powerful connection to the Force that gives him the edge against the still more skilled blademaster in pure sabers, yet Kas'im still blocks or at least blunts the worst of Bane's most powerful Force wave. Yoda and Dooku, Yoda has no qualms TKing Ventress, yet doesn't do the same to Dooku which implies he can't despite obviously being more powerful. 

So Kenobi resiting a Force push isn't a low showing for Vader, it doesn't even imply the former is close.

KingofBlades wrote:It should be noted that Dooku can dominate Kenobi in the force and that Zonakin made this power look like a joke. Since KF Vader is at least ~ to Zonakin it should be fairly obvious that MFV is not ~KF Vader

HellfireUnit wrote:I still don't see any facts or arguments towards MFV has been hindered or it is a weaker version of KFV.

RotS Script wrote:
OBI-WAN and ANAKIN lock sabers. OBI-WAN puts out his hand to use the Force to push ANAKIN away. ANAKIN puts out his hand to block OBI-WAN.
Both combatants are blasted backwards onto the control panels.

HellfireUnit wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:It should be noted that Dooku can dominate Kenobi in the force and that Zonakin made this power look like a joke. Since KF Vader is at least ~ to Zonakin it should be fairly obvious that MFV is not ~KF Vader

I doubt Zonakin's saber showings is relevant with Force Powers. Also why do you think KFV is above Zonakin?

NotAA3 wrote:KFV has greater mental clarity than Zonakin so he should be able to replicate all of his showings with equal or greater efficiency.

DarthAnt66 wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:I still don't see any facts or arguments towards MFV has been hindered or it is a weaker version of KFV.

Hm, have you read my fourth post in Super Fight III?

O-Siri wrote:Force barriers in the PT are all about timing and reflexes you have to put yourself in a defensive posture to successfully defend against enemy Force pushes. Ventress TK's Anakin on Kamino and later in the same fight he blocks it. In script when Kenobi tries to Force push Anakin it's explicitly stated Anakin put his hand out to defend himself:

RotS Script wrote:
OBI-WAN and ANAKIN lock sabers. OBI-WAN puts out his hand to use the Force to push ANAKIN away. ANAKIN puts out his hand to block OBI-WAN.
Both combatants are blasted backwards onto the control panels.

That's why Dooku was able to push and grip Kenobi, because the latter didn't get his hand up in time, and it's also why Maul doesn't just Force dominate Kenobi right of the bat on Florrum even when he had no interest in fighting him in the first place, he needed to wait for an opening to present itself.