What are some mainstream opinions that you strongly disagree with?

E.g. "Obi-Wan is not near Dooku," "Darth Vader is more powerful than ROTJ Luke," etc.

I don't believe Windu was superior to Dooku in AotC or RotS.

Windu being Dooku+ at any point prior to his duel against Sheev, Jacen and those he scales off being sub Secura and ROTS Sheev being above Valk.

This is going to be a spicy thread. I don't think Yoda or ROTS Sheev are even in the same tier as ol' Valky.

Dooku losing to Mace after a grueling contest( it is more like a stomp the closer you get to ROTS)

This isn't mainstream, only a small minority of people have it, but Dooku giving Yoda or Sidious a good fight in ROTS

Vader being the weakest of Palpatine's apprentices

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Revan is above all featured in any TOR related material bar Valk in my opinion. Including Outlander and Valk.
NJO characters are higher than most PT guys.
Revan > ROTS Sidious.

The Windu brigade is a dying breed.

The Vader lowballing
Dooku>Revan
The Bane and Zannah lowballing
Dooku being a challenge to Yoda

Meatpants wrote:The Windu brigade is a dying breed.

SithSauce wrote:The Bane and Zannah lowballing

I think this is just a product of Banite scaling which can be pretty cancer sometimes.

SithSauce wrote:Dooku>Revan

Are you saying Dooku > Revan, or are you disagreeing with people who have Dooku > Revan?

Note while that used to be rather mainstream, I would say less than 5% of the forum right now thinks that.

DarthAnt66 wrote:

SithSauce wrote:Dooku>Revan

Are you saying Dooku > Revan, or are you disagreeing with people who have Dooku > Revan?

Note while that used to be rather mainstream, I would say less than 5% of the forum right now thinks that.

Nah I disagree with the notion of Dooku>Revan
I thought there was a rather big PT brigade who had the likes of Mace and Dooku above most TOR characters because of their respected performances against Yoda and Sidious.
Looks like that has died down now?

Vader is sub-TPM Kenobi level.

HellfireUnit wrote:Vader is sub-TPM Kenobi level.

Now THIS is a hot take.

Yeah, most people hold Revan as a low tier 9 at this stage. I personally have him at above Yoda and ROTS Sidious, as well as the Outlander, but below ROTJ Sidious and Valk.

HellfireUnit wrote:Vader is sub-TPM Kenobi level.

Tbf only the trolls hold that opinion

SithSauce wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:Vader is sub-TPM Kenobi level.

Tbf only the trolls hold that opinion

Nah there are people who most certainly believes that.

In all seriousness though the Vader lowball has gotten pretty bad. Somebody needs to drag him back up.

I put suit Vader at about Ulic Qel Droma level.

I'll throw some of mine:

- The Outlander is weaker than SOR Revan and unchained Vaylin
- JA Exar Kun is plausibly more powerful than TOTJ Kun
- Valkorion's in the same tier as DE Palpatine 
- Reborn Krayt isn't far above Cade Skywalker and is beneath ROTS Palpatine

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Your beliefs, right? Or what you disagree with?

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Your beliefs, right?  Or what you disagree with?

Those are some beliefs I hold that are in the minority.

Praxis wrote:In all seriousness though the Vader lowball has gotten pretty bad. Somebody needs to drag him back up.

Me and Ant will have a Post Suit versus RotS/KF Anakin thread. Expect some solid arguements 

The main one I’m planning on tackling is the idea that TPM Kenobi is near his master by virtue of a rage amped demonstration.

HellfireUnit wrote:

Praxis wrote:In all seriousness though the Vader lowball has gotten pretty bad. Somebody needs to drag him back up.

Me and Ant will have a Post Suit versus RotS/KF Anakin thread. Expect some solid arguements 

Me whenever I debate Vader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANuJ4m5m1kc