Mace Windu vs Exar Kun

Fight takes place on Yavin IV

Mace Windu gets his AMP he received against Palpatine.

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Already been done, and prime Mace wins.

Windu wins.

blackymarket wrote:

Mace Windu gets his AMP he received against Palpatine.

blackymarket wrote:Mace Windu gets his AMP he received against Palpatine.

Windu utterly annihilates.

Mace

Kun melts his face with sorcery

Windu wins even without Palpatine Amp.

Kun stomps, btw. Not even a debate.

Windu slices.

Yeah, Windu wins if he has the amp.

Kun comes down to the Malak quote, and whether you accept it. Based on the policies we follow on this forum/community (according to the official Holocron) the quote IS binding; not sure if there's any real legitimate way around it.

The quote itself doesn't even specifically refer to the Force, kek.

Physical Kun scales to at least DE Luke, but all indications suggest he's > BFC Luke. So no, he isn't losing to Mace.

I might as well say that "His embrace of the Force's dark side gives him powers that rival Vader's." Doesn't specifically refer to the Force when we're talking about Jerec? Definitely squirming with these out-of-context explanations you're throwing around.

Good day.

Nice non-argument you have, you're mixing two entirely different quotes. Everyone, including ILS, argues that 'powers' in terms of the Muur/Krayt quote refers to Force techniques. This time, the Force isn't even directly provided in the context, and worse the author of the quote doesn't even go along with your interpretation.

That's ignoring the fact that Exar Kun is far beyond KotOR's strongest Sith Lords per the series itself. So the quote isn't even consistent with all the other quotes surrounding the series.

Windu stomps Kun and it isn't even a debate.

Windu has nothing on DE Luke, nevermind stronger incarnations.

Windu wins

Based on what? I hope it's not long-debunked Sheev parity. He isn't ~ Sheev.

Yeah, he's not ~ Sheev, not even close imo.

Indeed. In the actual fight it says Mace's loop can't handle Sheev's lightning and it bends the damn lightsaber blade. So yes, we're in agreement. Windu can't use Sheev parity here, so what does he have?

Do keep in mind that a pre-Great Sith War Kun lifted the same class of cruiser as Dooku lifted in Jedi Quest. Both were amped by a nexus at the time, but Kun's growth in power utterly dwarfs what Dooku experience from Jedi Quest to his death.

Something to keep in mind.

LadyKulvax wrote:Indeed. In the actual fight it says Mace's loop can't handle Sheev's lightning and it bends the damn lightsaber blade. So yes, we're in agreement. Windu can't use Sheev parity here, so what does he have?

Being closer to Sidious than Kun is. But we're gonna disagree on that.

Which you've yet to establish anywhere near a sufficient ground for. But I'll save you the trouble:

Jedi Academy Vol.3: Champions of the Force wrote:If Kyp could face this final test, Luke would know he'd passed through the fire of his testing-tempered by forces as dire and powerful as those Luke himself had endured.

Windu is quite superior to Kun. He is already a comparable Force Wielder and way superior combatant and Vaapad makes everything way easier for Mace. Kun cannot match him. Kun also would not defeat be able to defeat DE Luke. Honestly Kyp is the one who defeats Luke, not Kun. Against a mentally unstable Luke who didn't want to hurt Kyp. While he is the among the strongest of Ancient Sith Lords (which I think he is the strongest including Vitiate), he is nowhere near Sidious whom Mace could match. So I don't see him winning under any circumstances except for a Force Battle.