Revan vs Corran Horn

Revan as of Mandalorian Wars. Peak Corran.

Who wins?

Revan

Corran wins

If Revan is dumb enough to try an energy attack he might lose.

Greysentinel365 wrote:If Revan is dumb enough to try an energy attack he might lose.

Well Corran will certainly do his best to goad Revan into doing it. I mean, that’s what makes Corran effective. He knows he’s useless in a TK contest.

MW Revan already is above Nihilus, Traya, etc. Revan takes 7/10.

No, he isn't. Kek.

Per the whole Meetra statement in the novel, he is.

Firstly, Meetra says his 'command' of the Force was greatest. Secondly, Meetra senses Revan literally the moment she arrives on Dromund Kaas. So no, he isn't.

She’s never seen his command of the force post the MW, so that makes no sense. How would she be able to gauge is command/strength, etc of the force without witnessing it.

Luke sensed Caedus' daily growth in understanding of the Force from across the galaxy. Meetra, who is at least somewhat bonded to Revan, obviously feels his presence in the Force the most she lands. She obviously isn't talking about MW era Revan or she wouldn't have been in utter disbelief and awe when hearing about and facing Darth Nihilus.

Why is that obvious when his presence is masked by both the Kaas nexus and drugs, and nowhere does the text imply she sensed him. How does the argument that command = mastery even relate to presence sensing.

Wut?

SWTOR: Revan wrote:As she brought the ship in to land, she knew with a sudden and unshakable certainty that Revan was somewhere on this world.
"He's here, Tee-Three," she informed her companion, trying to contain her excitement. "I can feel it."

And I explained the way that’s worded indicates more of an Earth-based gut-feeling than actual cosmic sensing. If Revan’s presence could just be felt openly, Vitiate — who spends all his time on world — wouldn’t just look the other way, especially since he would already know Revan’s Force signature. And Vitiate’s senses are way better than the Exile’s, obviously.

And, also as I pointed out, how does sensing Revan’s presence mitigated by many nexuses and drugs relate to the argument that Revan had greater “command of the Force”  than anyone she knew while you also argue that “command” isn’t rooted in raw power.

Except that's entirely within Force senses anyway? I don't see the difference. She can literally feel that he's there, which makes sense given that she's supposed to have a bond with him.

Someone's mastery of the Force can be sensed though, and it has been many times in lore before then.

You're also failing to account for why Meetra has already, apparently, sensed a planetary Force user and yet doesn't even concieve of that level of power. A concept which is dwarfed by the reality of Nihilus' true power.

MW Revan.

Revan as a padawan could probably end this sad guy.

Revan.

LadyKulvax wrote:Except that's entirely within Force senses anyway? I don't see the difference. She can literally feel that he's there, which makes sense given that she's supposed to have a bond with him.

I'm saying that's not with Force sense.

Someone's mastery of the Force can be sensed though, and it has been many times in lore before then.

Examples?

You're also failing to account for why Meetra has already, apparently, sensed a planetary Force user and yet doesn't even concieve of that level of power. A concept which is dwarfed by the reality of Nihilus' true power.

I don't see how that relates to what I said.

I could see a case being made for Horn, honestly.

Revan annihilates Horn unless he uses Force Lightning and Horn reacts by using tutaminis.

And I don't see why Revan would, since he was still a Jedi at the time.

DarthAnt66 wrote:

LadyKulvax wrote:Except that's entirely within Force senses anyway? I don't see the difference. She can literally feel that he's there, which makes sense given that she's supposed to have a bond with him.

I'm saying that's not with Force sense.

Someone's mastery of the Force can be sensed though, and it has been many times in lore before then.

Examples?

You're also failing to account for why Meetra has already, apparently, sensed a planetary Force user and yet doesn't even concieve of that level of power. A concept which is dwarfed by the reality of Nihilus' true power.

I don't see how that relates to what I said.

1.It makes absolutely no sense for it to be anything but that.

2.Luke with Caedus comes to mind.

3.It means that it makes no sense that Meetra is absolutely in disbelief, shock and awe by Nihilus' power when she'd already supposedly met someone more powerful than him long before then.

Geistalt wrote:Revan annihilates Horn unless he uses Force Lightning and Horn reacts by using tutaminis.

 Corran can block and absorb kinetics as well.

1.It makes absolutely no sense for it to be anything but that.

@LadyKulvax: Why doesn't what I said make any sense?

2.Luke with Caedus comes to mind.

That's because Luke saw Caedus' abilities first-hand, and Caedus was intentionally manipulating his Force aura is different ways.

3.It means that it makes no sense that Meetra is absolutely in disbelief, shock and awe by Nihilus' power when she'd already supposedly met someone more powerful than him long before then.

I haven't claimed Revan > Nihilus once in this thread or any thread on SI. I don't know why you're bringing it up.