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Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 18th 2021, 7:20 am
Starkiller from TFU2
Sabers
Force
All-out
Location: Tiin’s garden
Sabers
Force
All-out
Location: Tiin’s garden
The lord of hungerLevel Two
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 18th 2021, 4:09 pm
the one who dint get hit by a flying brick wins
Primarch
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 18th 2021, 4:21 pm
The lord of hunger wrote:the one who dint get ambushed by spiders wins
VictreebelVictr
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 18th 2021, 5:31 pm
KingKopecz wrote:The lord of hunger wrote:the one who dint get ambushed by spiders wins
OT: Ludo in a very good fight.
- VictreebelVictr
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 19th 2021, 10:08 am
@I_Like_Chee
I have Ludo>Tenebrous on my list, and I don't consider Starkiller on the Bith's level of power.
I have Ludo>Tenebrous on my list, and I don't consider Starkiller on the Bith's level of power.
GuestGuest
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 20th 2021, 4:26 am
@VictreebelVictr
Y?
I have Ludo>Tenebrous on my list, and I don't consider Starkiller on the Bith's level of power.
Y?
Vaelias
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 20th 2021, 8:23 am
I_Like_Chee wrote:@VictreebelVictr
I have Ludo>Tenebrous on my list, and I don't consider Starkiller on the Bith's level of power.
Y?
Very good question
Trayus Marauder
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 5:57 am
Kressh due to his incredible scaling.
- GuestGuest
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 6:34 am
Trayus Marauder wrote:Kressh due to his incredible scaling.
What scaling would that be?
- Trayus Marauder
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 7:07 am
I_Like_Chee wrote:Trayus Marauder wrote:Kressh due to his incredible scaling.
What scaling would that be?
Nihilus scaling alone is enough to justify a win.
- The Merchant
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 1:28 pm
Ludo probably>Kotor 2 era Surik and Traya, but I feel Starkillers feats gives him the W.
- VictreebelVictr
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 1:39 pm
I don't know if I give in to those accolades. They seem to point toward the power levels of the Ancient Sith in a game that was never published.Trayus Marauder wrote:Nihilus scaling alone is enough to justify a win.
I think it is best to see if SE supports the notion or not.
- GuestGuest
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 1:40 pm
Trayus Marauder wrote:I_Like_Chee wrote:Trayus Marauder wrote:Kressh due to his incredible scaling.
What scaling would that be?
Nihilus scaling alone is enough to justify a win.
Why does that give him the win?
- GuestGuest
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 21st 2021, 1:44 pm
VictreebelVictr wrote:I don't know if I give in to those accolades. They seem to point toward the power levels of the Ancient Sith in a game that was never published.Trayus Marauder wrote:Nihilus scaling alone is enough to justify a win.
I think it is best to see if SE supports the notion or not.
Trayus gets a reply, but I don't?
- Trayus Marauder
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 22nd 2021, 4:19 am
@VictreebelVictr
Given the theoretical K3 game doesn't exist and the Ancient>Nihilus quote is c-canon, we can only conclude that it is connected to established Ancient Sith.
@I_Like_Chee
Given SK has no way to deal with drain and doesn't have the feats to compare to Nihilus, Nihilus scaling has a pretty noticeable impact when judging the matchup.
Given the theoretical K3 game doesn't exist and the Ancient>Nihilus quote is c-canon, we can only conclude that it is connected to established Ancient Sith.
@I_Like_Chee
Given SK has no way to deal with drain and doesn't have the feats to compare to Nihilus, Nihilus scaling has a pretty noticeable impact when judging the matchup.
- GuestGuest
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 22nd 2021, 10:07 am
@Trayus Marauder
You know, when I ask for elaboration on unsubstantiated claims, what I don't expect is... more unsubstantiated claims:
Citation needed.
Citation needed.
You know, when I ask for elaboration on unsubstantiated claims, what I don't expect is... more unsubstantiated claims:
Given SK has no way to deal with drain
Citation needed.
and doesn't have the feats to compare to Nihilus,
Citation needed.
Nihilus scaling has a pretty noticeable impact when judging the matchup.
- Trayus Marauder
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 22nd 2021, 10:40 am
@I_Like_Chee
Just because there isn't a quote that explicitly says a character can't deal with something doesn't automatically make them able to counter it. By your logic, Sors Bandeam can handle drain because there isn't a quote that explicitly states he can't defend against it. (while I am aware that you haven't explicitly outlined this as your logic, it comes across that way implicitly by your attempt to shut down my drain point by asking for a citation that you know for a fact will not be found) So me not providing a citation is not an indicator of you being correct but while we are asking for citations, how about you provide a citation for SK having the capability to handle drain at all, let alone drain that can wipe out planets such as Katarr (and Telos if Nihilus was not stopped)
I'm pretty well researched in terms of Galen/SK info and I'm entirely certain that SK does not have the feat of draining a planet under his belt. Also, while SK has impressive TK, he hasn't matched Nihilus' feat of tearing a fleet from Malachor V and maintaining them throughout a space battle despite the ships being structurally damaged to the point where they should have been destroyed.
Just because there isn't a quote that explicitly says a character can't deal with something doesn't automatically make them able to counter it. By your logic, Sors Bandeam can handle drain because there isn't a quote that explicitly states he can't defend against it. (while I am aware that you haven't explicitly outlined this as your logic, it comes across that way implicitly by your attempt to shut down my drain point by asking for a citation that you know for a fact will not be found) So me not providing a citation is not an indicator of you being correct but while we are asking for citations, how about you provide a citation for SK having the capability to handle drain at all, let alone drain that can wipe out planets such as Katarr (and Telos if Nihilus was not stopped)
I'm pretty well researched in terms of Galen/SK info and I'm entirely certain that SK does not have the feat of draining a planet under his belt. Also, while SK has impressive TK, he hasn't matched Nihilus' feat of tearing a fleet from Malachor V and maintaining them throughout a space battle despite the ships being structurally damaged to the point where they should have been destroyed.
- VictreebelVictr
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 22nd 2021, 11:28 am
AA3 wrote:VictreebelVictr wrote:I don't know if I give in to those accolades. They seem to point toward the power levels of the Ancient Sith in a game that was never published.Trayus Marauder wrote:Nihilus scaling alone is enough to justify a win.
I think it is best to see if SE supports the notion or not.
Trayus gets a reply, but I don't?
Sorry, I am still reading up on Starkiller, so I didn't want to jump into a debate you'd likely murder me in.
- VictreebelVictr
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
January 22nd 2021, 11:30 am
@Trayus Marauder
I don't think that matters. It was supposed to be connected to the Ancient Sith as displayed in Kotor 3. Therefore, it shouldn't have anything to do with the portrayal of them outside of the game's publication.
Trayus Marauder wrote:Given the theoretical K3 game doesn't exist and the Ancient>Nihilus quote is c-canon, we can only conclude that it is connected to established Ancient Sith.
I don't think that matters. It was supposed to be connected to the Ancient Sith as displayed in Kotor 3. Therefore, it shouldn't have anything to do with the portrayal of them outside of the game's publication.
Decimus
Re: Starkiller vs Ludo Kressh
February 3rd 2021, 4:02 pm
Yoda<-8-6 6-4 4-2 2-0
Starkiller is a tier 7-6-4
Ludo Kressh rivalled Naga Sadow who was above Horak-Mul who became a spirit.
Ludo Kressh's descendants like Exal Kressh have been able to resist Vitiate's tp. She'd likely be Dark Council level.
Exar Kun using Sadow's ritual drained the life force of thousands of Massassi weak force sensitive dark siders to remain as a spirit.
In general you need massive force reserves to remain fixed to the living world in order to not fall into chaos over the millennia.
Ludo Kressh lowballed is a tier - 2000.
Ludo Kressh wins and could fight many Starkillers at once.
Starkiller is a tier 7-6-4
Ludo Kressh rivalled Naga Sadow who was above Horak-Mul who became a spirit.
Ludo Kressh's descendants like Exal Kressh have been able to resist Vitiate's tp. She'd likely be Dark Council level.
Exar Kun using Sadow's ritual drained the life force of thousands of Massassi weak force sensitive dark siders to remain as a spirit.
In general you need massive force reserves to remain fixed to the living world in order to not fall into chaos over the millennia.
Ludo Kressh lowballed is a tier - 2000.
Ludo Kressh wins and could fight many Starkillers at once.
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