The End of an Era

Written by Pablo Hidalgo in Star Wars Insider 72. Credit to @Jake.

Key question: Do we take this to mean even AOTC Anakin has "seriously" "greater skill and power" than Vader given this was written in 2003, or do you think Pablo's referencing the ongoing production of ROTS, which Pablo would be monitoring and giving updates on for starwars.com?

Stated by Hidalgo, echoed by Lucas. Something we all knew deep down.

I'd hesitate to use this as concrete evidence for AotC Anakin's superiority.

So we are to actually assume all of the PT Jedi are > Ben, Vader, and Luke?

How low this brigade has fallen.

I wouldn't say that's what Pablo's getting at.

Where's that quote where Vader is reminded of his younger self whilst fighting Luke? (And getting beaten)

It's an author quote anyway, so I wouldn't give it any stock.

In-sidiousvader wrote:So we are to actually assume all of the PT Jedi are > Ben, Vader, and Luke?

How low this brigade has fallen.

AotC Anakin is superior to pretty much all council members except the obvious.... on a good day anyway.

Ngl, if I saw the movies only this is the exact impression that I would get.

I guess it just comes down to whether you value the movies or the EU more

Given canon policy points to the one that wasn't nuked like 7 years ago...

Azronger wrote:It's an author quote anyway, so I wouldn't give it any stock.

The author being . . . Hidalgo?

But it says “as a young man”, it doesn’t specifically talk about a particular version of Anakin. I don’t understand why you think it is AOTC Anakin, it could mean ROTS Anakin.

It came out before ROTS, although I’m open to the idea it’s still referring to ROTS given ROTS was currently being made.

DarthAnt66 wrote:It came out before ROTS, although I’m open to the idea it’s still referring to ROTS given ROTS was currently being made.

Ah sorry, I hadn’t read the “key question” carefully. I do hold Vader above AOTC Anakin, especially given some of the feats he has even during the Dark Times era. Furthermore there’s the George Lucas quote about Dooku, Maul and Vader being comparable. Just out of curiosity, why did you name the thread “the end of an era”?

The Lucas quote certainly does not mean Vader is comparable to the other two apprentices.

DarthAnt66 wrote:

Azronger wrote:It's an author quote anyway, so I wouldn't give it any stock.

The author being . . . Hidalgo?

Who has what authority to dictate canon, exactly?

We have never seen true jedis in action.
- George Lucas

Random geonosis fodder >>> ROTJ Sheev

Azronger wrote:

DarthAnt66 wrote:

Azronger wrote:It's an author quote anyway, so I wouldn't give it any stock.

The author being . . . Hidalgo?

Who has what authority to dictate canon, exactly?

Insider has a segment where Pablo answers questions about continuity. This is in that section.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Q%26A

They're said to be "actual answers to your Star Wars questions." This is a straight-forward OOU source. 

Seeing as Chee took over the segment, they seem to be actual continuity questions and answers. And I didn't initially make note that Hidalgo referenced Lucas for his answer, so the quote seems to be fair game.

As to the question whether it refers to AotC or RotS, I think you can make a case either way.

It's not just AOTC Anakin.

TPM Kenobi, Jinn and Maul are all > Vader.

The EU - intentionally or not - corroborates this by showing Maul rip the Suited Vader a new cybernetic asshole. With Vader managing an upset... TPM Kenobi fashion, with the slight caveat that Kenobi didn't have to stab himself to win and the Mighty Lord Vader did.

I don't think there's any concrete evidence to suggest it is referring to AOTC Anakin but it's a solid quote nonetheless (regardless of which version of Anakin it is referring to) and a good one to add to the Anakin>Vader collection.

Still better than Malgus & Maul.

@Darthant66 Keep in mind Pablo has also written those head to head vs books which had Kit Fisto>Maul, Vader>Yoda, AOTC Obi Wan>Dooku, Kylo Ren>Luke Skywalker

I guess Vader>Yoda now since we are taking Pablo's word seriously

R/whoosh