Ancient Sith scaling.

So for the longest time, I've been considering
the implications of a few quotes. The first comes from KotOR where it's explained by Ajunta Pall's spirit that the source of their collective hidden power was the Star Map. Given this, we know for a fact that Malak scales well beyond their magnitude as his source for ever-increasing power was the pinnacle of Rakatan achievements in the Star Forge.

Then we have the fact that Darth Nihilus was blatantly beyond Malak, and that the source of Darth Revan's obsession was Malachor V. He treasured it so much he hid it from Malak.

The third and final part of this equation is that Kreia's statement clarifies that Darth Nihilus was approaching the powers of some of the ancient Sith. I find it very highly likely that this is in reference to the likes of Marka Ragnos.

So what this all put together seems to suggest is:

1.Ancient Dark Lords(I.E Marka Ragnos)
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2.Darth Nihilus
*
3.Darth Malak
*
4.Jedi Exiles

Note, I'm not suggesting this is canon fact or anything but it's been my basis for a lot of scaling recently.

Wasn't Ajunta Pall one of the ancient Sith that potentially could have been who Traya was referring to when she said Nihilus prime can rival "some of the ancient Sith?" Ofc, he was a special case since she specified it was his sword that was powerful, not him. The sword probably was a relic from the star forge itself of anything, and it possibly ended up destroying him as Traya said.

I'm still personally on the fence with that quote, however. It would imply Ludo Kressh would be above Nihilus and yet he was killed by a 300 meter starship ramming onto him. Nihilus on the other hand levitated a fleet of war ships from planet crushing gravity.

It's all very confusing heh x3. But this is one of my favorite topics to discuss so curious what others have 2 say

Kreia’s opinions are ultimately subjective. It’s a better opinion than most, though. She studied ancient Sith texts at least.

They're confirmed by Avellone to be accurate.

Well the idea that Nihilus is only approaching some of the ancient Sith in power really hinders him.

Oh, forgot to ask. What makes it clear Nihilus>Malak? I don't disagree, but what is the main basis for that.

Not sure about that. Malak isn’t a pushover.

I honestly have Revan above Nihilus, and most of the ancient sith. Naga Sadow did that whole thing with the solar flare, but that isn't very combat applicable.

Can't really rank them atm but Revan is the greatest of pre-Banite Sith imo.

HellfireUnit wrote:Can't really rank them atm but Revan is the greatest of pre-Banite Sith imo.

Why you do Vitiate dirty like that?

Nihilus is probably > Revan tbh. Also, Vitiate isn't a Sith.

The Dragon of Zakuul wrote:Nihilus is probably > Revan tbh. Also, Vitiate isn't a Sith.

Before he became Valkorion he was

KingofBlades wrote:

The Dragon of Zakuul wrote:Nihilus is probably > Revan tbh. Also, Vitiate isn't a Sith.

Before he became Valkorion he was

He was Valkorion for 1000 years.

DarthSkywalker0 wrote:

KingofBlades wrote:

The Dragon of Zakuul wrote:Nihilus is probably > Revan tbh. Also, Vitiate isn't a Sith.

Before he became Valkorion he was

He was Valkorion for 1000 years.

I mean as long as he was sith emperor.

I believe Vitiate shed his title of sith lord when he performed the ritual on Nathema but I could be wrong.