AotC Anakin vs Thexan

Who wins?

Thexan easily.

Anakin shreds him into pieces

HellfireUnit wrote:Anakin shreds him into pieces

Apparently AOTC Anakin is far better than scaling > SoR HoT?

Thexan was in lockstep with Arcann his entire life. He stomps.

IG wrote:

HellfireUnit wrote:Anakin shreds him into pieces

Apparently AOTC Anakin is far better than scaling > SoR HoT?

Anakin scales from Dooku and has feats to back him unlike Thexan, who is only comparable to weakest incarnation of Arcann.

Anakin scarcely competes with Dooku in a flash of brilliance. That’s not scaling to him.

Anakin's performance against Dooku is one of the biggest inconsistencies in the SW mythos. Some sources say Dooku won easily, some beg to differ.

Latham2000 wrote:Anakin's performance against Dooku is one of the biggest inconsistencies in the SW mythos. Some sources say Dooku won easily, some beg to differ.

Anakin was in a "flash of brilliance" state, some of which let him perform at Yoda+ levels. There's no reason that normal AOTC Anakin performs like that.

Does Thexan have any feats other than being comparable to "sacrifice" trailer Arcann who isn't anywhere near Anakin?

Isv wrote:Does Thexan have any feats other than being comparable to "sacrifice" trailer Arcann who isn't anywhere near Anakin?

Why isn't Sacrifice Arcann anywhere near Arcann? He could decimate entire groups of Sith lords.

BoD wrote:

Isv wrote:Does Thexan have any feats other than being comparable to "sacrifice" trailer Arcann who isn't anywhere near Anakin?

Why isn't Sacrifice Arcann anywhere near Arcann? He could decimate entire groups of Sith lords.

Groups of unnamed/slightly fodder sith lords <<< being > AOTC Kenobi and > almost everyone else in the temple

IG wrote:

Latham2000 wrote:Anakin's performance against Dooku is one of the biggest inconsistencies in the SW mythos. Some sources say Dooku won easily, some beg to differ.

Anakin was in a "flash of brilliance" state, some of which let him perform at Yoda+ levels. There's no reason that normal AOTC Anakin performs like that.

Is the "flash of brilliance" Anakin's rage, or something else? Citation would be nice.

Isv wrote:

BoD wrote:

Isv wrote:Does Thexan have any feats other than being comparable to "sacrifice" trailer Arcann who isn't anywhere near Anakin?

Why isn't Sacrifice Arcann anywhere near Arcann? He could decimate entire groups of Sith lords.

Groups of unnamed/slightly fodder sith lords <<< being > AOTC Kenobi and > almost everyone else in the temple

Citation needed for both of those claims not being due to "a flash of brilliance."

BoD wrote:

Isv wrote:

BoD wrote:

Isv wrote:Does Thexan have any feats other than being comparable to "sacrifice" trailer Arcann who isn't anywhere near Anakin?

Why isn't Sacrifice Arcann anywhere near Arcann? He could decimate entire groups of Sith lords.

Groups of unnamed/slightly fodder sith lords <<< being > AOTC Kenobi and > almost everyone else in the temple

Citation needed for both of those claims not being due to "a flash of brilliance."

Citation needed for the possibility of said "flash of brilliance" not coming into play in this matchup

So basically your case for AOTC Anakin rests on a possible amp that has only occurred under situations of emotional stress, such as trying to protect his master/father figure (who's not here in the battle), which means you don't think base AOTC Anakin can beat Thexan.

Anakin dies

I take it that Anakin's "flash of brilliance" in his performance against Dooku is his rage and hatred for Dooku?

"Struggling to maintain the consciousness against waves of pain from his earlier clash with Dooku, Anakin could only watch as Obi-Wan attempted to hold his own against Dooku. Anakin was furious, with himself and the dark Jedi. That core of rage increased as Anakin saw Obi-Wan so casually beaten. Anakin's anger and his fear for his Master allowed him to push aside his own pain.

(.....)


Ignoring the pain he felt from their previous clash, Anakin blocked Dooku's swing as he was about to land the final blow on Obi-Wan. Fuelled by his hate for Dooku and his anger with himself, Anakin held Dooku’s gaze." -- The Official Star Wars Fact File 100.

No it’s based on a Gillard quote. He performs at far higher levels than normal because of his latent raw power.

Latham2000 wrote:I take it that Anakin's "flash of brilliance" in his performance against Dooku is his rage and hatred for Dooku?

"Struggling to maintain the consciousness against waves of pain from his earlier clash with Dooku, Anakin could only watch as Obi-Wan attempted to hold his own against Dooku. Anakin was furious, with himself and the dark Jedi. That core of rage increased as Anakin saw Obi-Wan so casually beaten. Anakin's anger and his fear for his Master allowed him to push aside his own pain.

(.....)


Ignoring the pain he felt from their previous clash, Anakin blocked Dooku's swing as he was about to land the final blow on Obi-Wan. Fuelled by his hate for Dooku and his anger with himself, Anakin held Dooku’s gaze." -- The Official Star Wars Fact File 100.

These just confirm that he won't be able to replicate this when fighting Thexan. They peaked because of Obi-Wan being hurt.

BoD wrote:

Latham2000 wrote:I take it that Anakin's "flash of brilliance" in his performance against Dooku is his rage and hatred for Dooku?

"Struggling to maintain the consciousness against waves of pain from his earlier clash with Dooku, Anakin could only watch as Obi-Wan attempted to hold his own against Dooku. Anakin was furious, with himself and the dark Jedi. That core of rage increased as Anakin saw Obi-Wan so casually beaten. Anakin's anger and his fear for his Master allowed him to push aside his own pain.

(.....)


Ignoring the pain he felt from their previous clash, Anakin blocked Dooku's swing as he was about to land the final blow on Obi-Wan. Fuelled by his hate for Dooku and his anger with himself, Anakin held Dooku’s gaze." -- The Official Star Wars Fact File 100.

These just confirm that he won't be able to replicate this when fighting Thexan. They peaked because of Obi-Wan being hurt.

Yeah, and even in these Star Wars Fact Files, they contradict themselves on Anakin's fight with Dooku because literally 1 issue later, we get this....

“Full of overconfidence, Anakin rushed into the fight with Count Dooku. The superior swordsman bested him easily and severed Anakin’s right arm.” -- The Official Star Wars Fact Files 101.

But then 2 issues later we get this:

"The battle with Obi-Wan and Anakin had taken a lot out of Count Dooku, though he was a former Jedi Master and renowned lightsaber duelist. He deactivated his crimson blade and caught his breath as he contemplated his fallen foes." -- The Official Star Wars Fact Files 103.

Dooku "easily" beat Anakin but at the same time was tired from fighting him? Fact Files is schizophrenic thanks to be an in universe source 

Film suggests he needed to catch his breath but that he wasn't exhausted, more winded, so I'll go with that.

BoD wrote:Film suggests he needed to catch his breath but that he wasn't exhausted, more winded, so I'll go with that.

This makes sense, Dooku being winded is the most logical answer given that Fact Files says that he caught his breath while contemplating his beaten Jedi opponents i.e. Anakin and Obi-Wan... which took only 8 seconds.

Holistically Thexan is with Arcann, so he should win excluding any flashes of brilliance Anakin may have.