Darth Vader vs Darth Sidious

BreakofDawn wrote:Sidious. He's still noted to be more powerful and Vader actively fears him.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:yeah thats obvious, but i think that only either applies to OT sheev, or sheev being compared to newly suited vader. i wanna know if prime canon vader= ROTS sheev

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BreakofDawn wrote:Sidious. He's still noted to be more powerful and Vader actively fears him.

No. Darth Vader is more powerful

BreakofDawn wrote:

EmperorCaedus wrote:

BreakofDawn wrote:Sidious. He's still noted to be more powerful and Vader actively fears him.

No. Darth Vader is more powerful

If he were, he'd have already have defeated Sidious. Sidious was pretty sure that he could best Vader anytime that he wanted, and G-Canon still applies here.

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Word Salad wrote:How is arguing Vader > Sidious not trolling?

Obi-Wan seems to be winning the climactic duel with Darth Vader, even calling his opponent “only a master of evil.” But then - shocker - he just gives up.

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Obi-Wan’s moves were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader - recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter - fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions.

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Although he had been only briefly instructed by Yoda, Luke Skywalker showed great ability in the Force during his duel with Darth Vader on Bespin. He had enough strength to challenge Vader, but Luke was far too hasty.

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Jake wrote:Canon Vader is still inferior to Ben;

Obi-Wan seems to be winning the climactic duel with Darth Vader, even calling his opponent “only a master of evil.” But then - shocker - he just gives up.

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They're both still way post-prime;

Obi-Wan’s moves were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader - recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter - fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions.

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And ESB Luke is still good enough to give Vader a real challenge;

Although he had been only briefly instructed by Yoda, Luke Skywalker showed great ability in the Force during his duel with Darth Vader on Bespin. He had enough strength to challenge Vader, but Luke was far too hasty.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

Vader could very well be the most powerful Sith via cereal box quotes, but either he can't use all of it, or chooses not.
to. Canon Vader is just as shit as Legends Vader.

@SithSauce Love how you are cherry picking all the negative quotes about Vader. Quite pathetic

Jake wrote:Canon Vader is still inferior to Ben;

Obi-Wan seems to be winning the climactic duel with Darth Vader, even calling his opponent “only a master of evil.” But then - shocker - he just gives up.

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They're both still way post-prime;

Obi-Wan’s moves were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader - recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter - fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

And ESB Luke is still good enough to give Vader a real challenge;

Although he had been only briefly instructed by Yoda, Luke Skywalker showed great ability in the Force during his duel with Darth Vader on Bespin. He had enough strength to challenge Vader, but Luke was far too hasty.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

Vader could very well be the most powerful Sith via cereal box quotes, but either he can't use all of it, or chooses not to. Canon Vader is just as shit as Legends Vader.

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1997) wrote:When they fought, [Vader] had also tried to strike the boy down, but that had been merely a test. Had he been able to kill Luke easily, Luke would've not been worth the effort to recruit. Despite Vader's superior skill, despite his experience, Luke had survived with no more damage than easily repaired amutated hand.

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Jake wrote:Canon Vader is still inferior to Ben;

Obi-Wan seems to be winning the climactic duel with Darth Vader, even calling his opponent “only a master of evil.” But then - shocker - he just gives up.

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They're both still way post-prime;

Obi-Wan’s moves were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader - recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter - fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

And ESB Luke is still good enough to give Vader a real challenge;

Although he had been only briefly instructed by Yoda, Luke Skywalker showed great ability in the Force during his duel with Darth Vader on Bespin. He had enough strength to challenge Vader, but Luke was far too hasty.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

Vader could very well be the most powerful Sith via cereal box quotes, but either he can't use all of it, or chooses not to. Canon Vader is just as shit as Legends Vader.

1. Both quotes 1 and 2 contradict eachother. Quote 1 says Ben was winning the duel, while Quote 2 says Vader was just being careful. Which is it?
2. Anyone can have enough 'strength' to challenge someone for a brief second. For example, Kit Fisto had enough strength to challenge Darth Sidious is RotS, but he was shown as the clear inferior and was cut down in seconds.
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Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1997) wrote:When they fought, [Vader] had also tried to strike the boy down, but that had been merely a test. Had he been able to kill Luke easily, Luke would've not been worth the effort to recruit. Despite Vader's superior skill, despite his experience, Luke had survived with no more damage than easily repaired amutated hand.

This quote describes the ESB duel as merely a 'test' and no more than to recruit his son to the dark side. There was no way in hell Luke was winning that duel. 

4. Darth Vader > Darth Sidious still stands

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Jake wrote:Canon Vader is still inferior to Ben;

Obi-Wan seems to be winning the climactic duel with Darth Vader, even calling his opponent “only a master of evil.” But then - shocker - he just gives up.

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They're both still way post-prime;

Obi-Wan’s moves were slowed by age and lack of practice; Darth Vader - recalling the grievous injuries he suffered during their last encounter - fought his former Master with apprehension, while his cybernetic body reduced his actions.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

And ESB Luke is still good enough to give Vader a real challenge;

Although he had been only briefly instructed by Yoda, Luke Skywalker showed great ability in the Force during his duel with Darth Vader on Bespin. He had enough strength to challenge Vader, but Luke was far too hasty.

Star Wars: Lightsabers - A Guide to Weapons of the Force (2018)

Vader could very well be the most powerful Sith via cereal box quotes, but either he can't use all of it, or chooses not to. Canon Vader is just as shit as Legends Vader.

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1997) wrote:When they fought, [Vader] had also tried to strike the boy down, but that had been merely a test. Had he been able to kill Luke easily, Luke would've not been worth the effort to recruit. Despite Vader's superior skill, despite his experience, Luke had survived with no more damage than easily repaired amutated hand.