Exar Kun and Ulic-Qel Droma vs Darth Bane and Darth Zannah

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:yeah, no he doenst solo stomp a guy who moved a moon. for one, their dueling is about the same, but bane is older, more of a soldier, and knows more and better force powers. oh, nad if he has orbalisks, i dont even see him getting put down, unless kun uses drain, which bane can most likely counter if we are being realistic.

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:um, didnt zannah or someone like that say his power>>>> ambria or something?

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:um, didnt zannah or someone like that say his power>>>> ambria or something?

Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil wrote:Even though they were decades removed from the encounter, the Iktotchi sensed the raw power of the dark side emanating from him. It was like nothing she had seen or felt before, both terrifying and exhilarating.

Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil wrote:Thousands of years ago Ambria had been a world of verdant forests, brimming with life and the power of the Force. But the lush vegetation had been devastated when a Sith sorceress tried-and failed-to bend the entire planet to her will through a powerful ritual. Unable to control the violent energies of the dark side, she was destroyed by her own spell, as was the landscape of the entire planet.

For centuries the corruption of the failed ritual influenced all life on Ambria, transforming the once beautiful world into a nightmare of stunted, poisonous vegetation and twisted, mutated beasts. Eventually the dark side energies released by the Sith sorceress were trapped in a great lake near the planet's equator by a Jedi Master named Thon, but the damage was too widespread for the world to ever be completely healed.

The Iktotchi knew all this not because she had studied the planet's history, however. Her connection to the Force allowed her to see things.

Shioz wrote:

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:um, didnt zannah or someone like that say his power>>>> ambria or something?

It was Darth Cognus. In her opinion, the power of the poisoned PoD Bane> the destruction of the surface of Ambria during the ritual and its nexus. The funny thing is that these two excerpts are taken from the same chapter, and even in the book itself it looks like a comparison. In another source, the ritual of the sorceress is indicated as the most powerful manifestation of the dark side up to its time.

Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil wrote:Even though they were decades removed from the encounter, the Iktotchi sensed the raw power of the dark side emanating from him. It was like nothing she had seen or felt before, both terrifying and exhilarating.

Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil wrote:Thousands of years ago Ambria had been a world of verdant forests, brimming with life and the power of the Force. But the lush vegetation had been devastated when a Sith sorceress tried-and failed-to bend the entire planet to her will through a powerful ritual. Unable to control the violent energies of the dark side, she was destroyed by her own spell, as was the landscape of the entire planet.

For centuries the corruption of the failed ritual influenced all life on Ambria, transforming the once beautiful world into a nightmare of stunted, poisonous vegetation and twisted, mutated beasts. Eventually the dark side energies released by the Sith sorceress were trapped in a great lake near the planet's equator by a Jedi Master named Thon, but the damage was too widespread for the world to ever be completely healed.

The Iktotchi knew all this not because she had studied the planet's history, however. Her connection to the Force allowed her to see things.

So yes. DoE Bane > Orbalisk RoT Bane >> RoT Bane > PoD Bane >> Poisoned PoD Bane > Ambria nexus. 

Shioz wrote:In the vision, Cognus was PoD Bane during his first visit to Caleb (I provided relevant quotes). 

So you want to say that Exar Kun >>> Thon >>> Nexus Ambria >>> sun flares? If your point of view really is this, then why Darth Bane can not reproduce this feat?

Darth Bane: Rule of Two wrote:It was an uncomfortable line of speculation, but it was one Bane forced himself to consider. He had read the histories of the great Sith Lords; many were filled with feats almost too incredible to be believed. Yet even if these accounts were true, even if some of his predecessors had had the ability to use the dark side to destroy entire worlds or make a sun go nova, Bane still felt that his power measured up to the described abilities of many of those who had successfully created Holocrons of their own.

IdrisianGraecus wrote:

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:yeah, no he doenst solo stomp a guy who moved a moon. for one, their dueling is about the same, but bane is older, more of a soldier, and knows more and better force powers. oh, nad if he has orbalisks, i dont even see him getting put down, unless kun uses drain, which bane can most likely counter if we are being realistic.

Bane jacked off to Ambria (essentially, the nexus overwhelmed him). Thon >>> Ambria Nexus. Kun >>> Thon. 

Kun >>> Thon >>> Ambria

IdrisianGraecus wrote:

Shioz wrote:In the vision, Cognus was PoD Bane during his first visit to Caleb (I provided relevant quotes). 

So you want to say that Exar Kun >>> Thon >>> Nexus Ambria >>> sun flares? If your point of view really is this, then why Darth Bane can not reproduce this feat?

Because he hasn't....

Blade_of_Dorin wrote:

IdrisianGraecus wrote:

Shioz wrote:In the vision, Cognus was PoD Bane during his first visit to Caleb (I provided relevant quotes). 

So you want to say that Exar Kun >>> Thon >>> Nexus Ambria >>> sun flares? If your point of view really is this, then why Darth Bane can not reproduce this feat?

Because he hasn't....

Tf is this logic?

lorenzo.r.2nd wrote:yeah, no he doenst solo stomp a guy who moved a moon. for one, their dueling is about the same, but bane is older, more of a soldier, and knows more and better force powers. oh, nad if he has orbalisks, i dont even see him getting put down, unless kun uses drain, which bane can most likely counter if we are being realistic.

LadyKulvax wrote:Kun solos with something like:

Kun >> Ragnos > Nadd >>> Sadow > 67bby Plagueis/Tenebrous >>>>>> DoE Bane.