Revan vs Darth Nihilus

- Standard rules as usual.

Revan. Nihilus's planet drain isn't combat applicable

Revan rips his mask off.

Either way.

Imagine people still thinking Nihilus' only combative power is drain in 2019.

Imagine people still thinking Nihilus is a high tier Force user outside of drain in 2019.

He's got telekinesis comparable to the Dorsk 81 incident, so yes he absolutely is. Lmfao. What cancer.

Revan

While Nihilus is impressive outside his drain, Revan’s just an all around more powerful force user, especially given Nihilus’ trump card (drain) won’t eork here because it’s not really applicable to combat. I’d say based on the density of the asteroids Revan throws on the foundry (which is one of his weakest incarnation, probably below hindered novel, and even KOTOR), Revan’s TK is at least comparable to Nihilus’

Those asteroids are nowhere near what pre-prime Nihilus did with the fleet at Malachor V.

Meh, I meant that via scaling, given SoR Revan is likely >>>>> Foundry, that it puts him at comparable levels. Nihilus did also have the Malachor nexus helping him.

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Meh, I meant that via scaling, given SoR Revan is likely >>>>> Foundry, that it puts him at comparable levels. Nihilus did also have the Malachor nexus helping him.

I would tell you to use Kun scaling, but that isn't gonna work here

Nihilus was pre-world devouring, which is an exponential growth rate. The nexus is irrelevant.

KingofBlades wrote:

IdrisianGraecus wrote:Meh, I meant that via scaling, given SoR Revan is likely >>>>> Foundry, that it puts him at comparable levels. Nihilus did also have the Malachor nexus helping him.

I would tell you to use Kun scaling, but that isn't gonna work here

Not when I handily put down the last person who debated me on the matter, no. Malak can't clean Kun's boots let alone not get stomped into the ground by them.

That’s like saying “Oh, Vitiate only beat Revan due to a nexus? Ha, please, Vitiate stomps Revan without one” if referring to to the novel.

Not at all.

“The nexus is irrelevant”

Because Nihilus devours several worlds which multiply his power after the fact...

Even if you think that Nihilus is somewhat more powerful in force power, Revan's is vastly superior when it comes to mastery, skill, and knowledge. Revan takes this.

Other than Katarr, what does he devour. And he still loses to Meetra and fails to drain Visas and Canderous.

He's stated to have devoured worlds in the Campaign Guide. He loses to Meetra because he fed off of Telos and fed off another wound. Which 'psychically exhausted' him.

But fails to drain Canderous. We’re going in circles here. You seem to wank Kun and KOTOR 2 characters and leave the original KOTOR guys out to dry.

He doesn't drain Canderous because he wants to drain Meetra, it fails. He subsequently dies.

None of the KotOR characters are particularly impressive, to be honest. Revan becomes impressive for defeating Malak, but Revan still struggles with Bastila in a 'frantic' fight whilst she's holding two doors locked with TK. Yet she's sub-Vrook Lamar. Who gets stomped along with his equals Zez-Kai Ell and Kavar. Lonna Vash too if you take her into account.

But Malak shitstomps Bastila... And Revan is noted to have a greater "command of the force" than anyone Meetra's ever met before as of the MW. If you want to get into the bullshit about how she sensed him, fine, drugged Revan on a DS nexus has "greater command of the force", but either way, it's superior to Nihilus, Traya, etc. And if you'd want to say that Meetra sensed him, you have to realize that she hadn't see him to anything since the MW, so command would have to refer to raw power, which is what she could sense.

LadyKulvax wrote:He doesn't drain Canderous because he wants to drain Meetra, it fails. He subsequently dies.

None of the KotOR characters are particularly impressive, to be honest. Revan becomes impressive for defeating Malak, but Revan still struggles with Bastila in a 'frantic' fight whilst she's holding two doors locked with TK. Yet she's sub-Vrook Lamar. Who gets stomped along with his equals Zez-Kai Ell and Kavar. Lonna Vash too if you take her into account.

 He also had to defeat bastila multiple consecutive times as she kept rejuvenating herself with the energy coming from the SF. Revan then has enough gas left in the tank to defeat Malak multiple consecutive times. He does all this while being hindered by the SF's nexus.