Re: ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #10 - Revan

March 12th 2020, 3:34 am

ILS wrote:Kun absorbed the Force Essence of the entire Massassi species, as well as his own midichlorian rich body (remember that Bane used his own as fuel for his attempted Essence Transfer against Zannah, which he nearly succeeded in despite this usually being "nearly impossible" against a resisting target even for DE Sidious) as he tethered his spirit to Yavin IV.

This is all demonstratably false:

1.Exar Kun used all of the Massassi life essence in a ritual that bound his spirit to the temple focal point just to survive.

Exar Kun, Dark Apprentice wrote:"When the Jedi combined their might and came here to this moon to fight me, they unleashed such power that I had to drain every last one of the Massassi just to trap my spirit within these temples-to survive so that I could one day come back."

2.Kun's body was destroyed by the wall of light, not via some completely unrelated technique used by Bane.

Kun wasn't uber amped or anything of the sort, he literally turned into a spirit anchored in the temples to survive the wall of light. I've been over this dozens of times, he's specifically noted to be insane by JA:

New Essential Guide to Characters wrote:For four thousand years he remained there, driven half-mad by the unthinkable isolation.

At best, what your argument says is that Kun's power level remained the same but his energy reserves were destroyed. Which doesn't change the fact Kun would be in his prime in TOTJ.

March 12th 2020, 2:25 pm

Could see a case for Geth, Revan, vol, outlander and possibly vaylin.

Not sure

March 12th 2020, 2:32 pm

Seturna wrote:Could see a case for Geth, Revan, vol, outlander and possibly vaylin.

Not sure

Here is the case for Geth mate: link

March 12th 2020, 2:57 pm

Ah, thanks, gonna read it

March 12th 2020, 5:24 pm

anybody know the current post percentange?

March 12th 2020, 6:01 pm Message reputation : 100% (2 votes)

Revan: (8/35, 22.9%)
IG
DarthAnt66
KingofBlades
Gianfi
Cheth
Necromancer76
ScionOfSkywalker77
Ziggy

The Outlander: (2/35, 5.7%)
TenebrousWay
Praxis

Gethzerion: (15/35, 42.9%)
KelDorianUnit
ILS
Jedi_Jesus
Bart
The lord of hunger
Syndiciate
BoD
Geistalt
Fated Xtasy
> Korriban
Azronger
Heathen
Haggis
Shioz
Reynard (Ethanion)

Darish Vol: (3/35, 8.6%)
DarthAdi
MasterCilghal
Blade_of_Dorin

Darth Caedus: (2/35, 5.7%)
EmperorCaedus
lorenzo.r.2nd

Starkiller: (1/35, 2.9%)
NotAA3

Exar Kun: (2/35, 5.7%)
LadyKulvax
Jake

Volfe Karkko: (1/35, 2.9%)
Seturna

Darth Tenebrous (1/35, 2.9%)
CuckedCurry

March 12th 2020, 6:06 pm

@Geistalt DC/ScionofSkywalker voted Revan, actually.

March 12th 2020, 7:31 pm

Seturna wrote:Could see a case for Geth, Revan, vol, outlander and possibly vaylin.

Not sure

I'm still not seeing absolutely anything for why people are voting for a canonically, objectively inferior of Exar Kun in Gethzerion. ILS' post has been responded to. Either there's misunderstanding or an anti-Kun bias.

The responses to Gethzerion are here:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p50-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52604

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p125-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52779

The main case for Exar Kun is here:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p25-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52563

For those saying Kun can't be that strong because of Sheev quotes:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p100-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52703

March 12th 2020, 7:34 pm

I hope to write out a bunch of posts for SK this weekend now that my schedule has cleared up, in case anyone is interested. ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #10 - Revan - Page 7 228124001

★ Top Fifteen Tournament #10 - Revan - Page 7 228124001

March 12th 2020, 8:32 pm Message reputation : 100% (1 vote)

LadyKulvax wrote:

Seturna wrote:Could see a case for Geth, Revan, vol, outlander and possibly vaylin.

Not sure

I'm still not seeing absolutely anything for why people are voting for a canonically, objectively inferior of Exar Kun in Gethzerion. ILS' post has been responded to. Either there's misunderstanding or an anti-Kun bias.

The responses to Gethzerion are here:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p50-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52604

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p125-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52779

The main case for Exar Kun is here:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p25-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52563

For those saying Kun can't be that strong because of Sheev quotes:

https://www.suspectinsightforums.com/t2782p100-top-fifteen-tournament-10-vote-now#52703

While I'm voting for Revan, I do agree that the votes for Geth are confusing

March 13th 2020, 1:01 am Message reputation : 100% (2 votes)

Gethzerion

@"KelDorianUnit" I expect you to star any of my posts. ★ Top Fifteen Tournament #10 - Revan - Page 7 3344068304

March 13th 2020, 4:06 am Message reputation : 100% (1 vote)

Torn between Kun and Revan.

March 13th 2020, 4:10 am

I'm giving HU or others the chance to make the case for Kun being beneath Gethzerion that doesn't amount to claiming Kun as a spirit was uber amped by the ritual, which is demonstratably not true. Per the rules in the OP, that being providing a reason, then naturally the Geth case is conceded in favor of Exar Kun.

March 13th 2020, 6:35 am

Was planning to vote Vol, but I'll switch it to Geth for now.

March 13th 2020, 8:09 am Message reputation : 100% (1 vote)

Why Geth? Revan was handling a group made up by quite powerful individuals

March 13th 2020, 8:36 am

Geth.

March 13th 2020, 10:37 am

Tenebrous

★ Top Fifteen Tournament #10 - Revan - Page 7 4037459623

March 13th 2020, 10:45 am

I’ll tentatively go with Vol

March 13th 2020, 6:12 pm Message reputation : 100% (2 votes)

Geth.

March 14th 2020, 4:11 am

Revan gets his turn this time i think.

March 14th 2020, 4:47 am

Reasoning?

March 14th 2020, 5:09 am

Geistalt wrote:Reasoning?

So when I google search Gethzerion I get around 23000 search results.

The same search for Revan yields nearly 10 million.

March 14th 2020, 5:11 am

March 14th 2020, 10:34 am

CuckedCurry wrote:Tenebrous

March 14th 2020, 7:14 pm

I’ll wait on some other arguments before voting